------------- I thought the Red Wolfs owner had some money. He has a USL-2 team out in Utah I think and I think he wrote the check for his stadium... Who are the CFC owners and what kind of pockets do they have?
- So maybe that would be a good merger- a group who are passionate but poor owners with a guy with money who may not be the best soccer guy !
I think Martino is committed to the Red Wolves. He just installed 2000 more seats and a grass pitch. Inviting a couple of CFC directors onto the board of a merged team would be great.
----------- I actually saw a RedWolves game vs Greenville just after Covid. Stadium only partially built- mainly the grandstands, they were just getting to the boxes and parking lots. And no stands on freeway side and the field was fake/plastic. Will have to look at new pictures- 2,000 would have to be the long side and that is really cool if they put grass in !
--------Yeh found a couple articles that grass going in and expansion so they can get better quality games there- sounding like preseason for foreign teams etc. Glad to hear even in this relatively small market- other teams should take note
In the absolute best and most expansive era for investment in domestic outdoor league soccer, Robert Palmer couldn't find seven other people willing to invest in Division Zero.
Just looking at population sizes, it's strange that someone hasn't bet on a USL franchise in Cleveland, Norfolk/Virginia Beach or Jacksonville. Charleston Not sure why Youngstown are on there, they're an arena team
They're also a UPSL team. Someone may have mixed up USL and UPSL. The Force (Cleveland's League Two team) tried but it looks like Cleveland is MLSNP-bound with an independent team.
Obviously it's been a minute, and it was in a different environment, but the Cleveland City Stars were a cautionary tale about the perils of moving up, the saga of Virginia Beach in the A-League was probably enough to turn anybody off for a while (though there is a stadium there), and for all the bluster, Jacksonville lost half its audience from year one to year two and more from year two to year three. Also, Jacksonville IS getting a USL team in 2025 (Tim Tebow is in the ownership group), and Cleveland is getting an MLS Next Pro team in 2024.
[QUOTE="kenntomasch, post: 41605265, member: Also, Jacksonville IS getting a USL team in 2025 (Tim Tebow is in the ownership group), and Cleveland is getting an MLS Next Pro team in 2024.[/QUOTE] That's good news. It's hard to keep up. That's what she said.
That's good news. It's hard to keep up. That's what she said.[/QUOTE] -------------We've got Rhode Island and Des Moines with slow stadium issues. I thought New Orleans was mentioned at one time. Milwaukee announced and didn't I read of a financing or some other issue? Ft Worth was where Austin Bold was to go and I hear that is out. And JAX is coming based on having a stadium already in play? Sounds like USL is having some problems getting some of these teams over the finish line. They still have a Charlotte Independence playing in the shadow of CFC and its reserve team. Didn't USL give him an ok to move to another market? Kind of like Austin. Maybe he could team up with Wilmington if that is a new project. League will have to see what happens to SD Loyal once the MLS kicks up. Challenging times in the lower divisions
- I go back even further after I watched NASL 1.0 go up in flames, college soccer and to a lessor extent indoor soccer was it for a long time and then the alphabet soup of all the leagues that have come and gone. I give USL credit for doing better investigation of new owners, they seem to be doing their do-diligence and slow growth like MLS. If fact, because it's 2 or 3rd division, I say they need to be more diligent. Props also to building stadiums , also like MLS and also requiring full fields etc. (the issue that keep OKC Energy from playing.). So they are doing a lot of things right.
Random Indiana FC sighting in the corner. Like, I don't know if they even count, despite their efforts to finally build an actual field and facilities out in Lafayette. They've regularly been the victim of 10-0 drubbings in the NPSL over the years.
How much do you think NuRock is doing, besides making sure they can collect on their $20 million and that they continue to meet the PLS? I guess as real estate investors they can assist teams identify stadium opportunities as part of bigger real estate deals.
According to NISA, Sunday’s match between Flower City at Club de Lyon will not be played due to the lack of an approved venue in Daytona, FL. The game will be a forfeit as Flower City will be awarded a 3-0 win and three points. https://www.frontrowsoccer.com/2023...ower-city-union-moves-into-6th-place-in-nisa/
If my project had a hotel that fills up regularly, some apartments or condos that have good occupancy and carefully placed retail, restaurants and maybe a grocery store as well, i see positive cadh flows to support my soccer team.... ...... Indianapolis is dead center of the state. i could us that stadium as location of state finals for soccer, rugby, football etc. "all roads lead to indy"