NISA (New NASL-allied D3 league) Mega-Thread

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  1. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm sure the Red Wolves owners would consider offers.
     
  2. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    I thought the Red Wolfs owner had some money. He has a USL-2 team out in Utah I think and I think he wrote the check for his stadium... Who are the CFC owners and what kind of pockets do they have?
     
  3. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think CFC are owned by a bunch of fans so they'd have to bring in some money geezers.
     
  4. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    - So maybe that would be a good merger- a group who are passionate but poor owners with a guy with money who may not be the best soccer guy !
     
  5. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think Martino is committed to the Red Wolves. He just installed 2000 more seats and a grass pitch. Inviting a couple of CFC directors onto the board of a merged team would be great.
     
  6. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Didn't they already poach the GM of CFC or something? And cause some bad blood?
     
  7. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    I actually saw a RedWolves game vs Greenville just after Covid. Stadium only partially built- mainly the grandstands, they were just getting to the boxes and parking lots. And no stands on freeway side and the field was fake/plastic.
    Will have to look at new pictures- 2,000 would have to be the long side and that is really cool if they put grass in !
     
  8. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Apparently they have a club and suites now.
     
  9. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    --------Yeh found a couple articles that grass going in and expansion so they can get better quality games there- sounding like preseason for foreign teams etc. Glad to hear even in this relatively small market- other teams should take note
     
  10. bnyc

    bnyc Member

    Jan 20, 2015
    New York
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    Whatever happen to the Armada? Is J'ville still with out a club?
     
  11. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They have an active U23 club in NPSL.
     
  12. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In the absolute best and most expansive era for investment in domestic outdoor league soccer, Robert Palmer couldn't find seven other people willing to invest in Division Zero.
     
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  13. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just looking at population sizes, it's strange that someone hasn't bet on a USL franchise in Cleveland, Norfolk/Virginia Beach or Jacksonville. Charleston
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    Not sure why Youngstown are on there, they're an arena team
     
  14. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They're also a UPSL team. Someone may have mixed up USL and UPSL.

    The Force (Cleveland's League Two team) tried but it looks like Cleveland is MLSNP-bound with an independent team.
     
  15. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Obviously it's been a minute, and it was in a different environment, but the Cleveland City Stars were a cautionary tale about the perils of moving up, the saga of Virginia Beach in the A-League was probably enough to turn anybody off for a while (though there is a stadium there), and for all the bluster, Jacksonville lost half its audience from year one to year two and more from year two to year three.

    Also, Jacksonville IS getting a USL team in 2025 (Tim Tebow is in the ownership group), and Cleveland is getting an MLS Next Pro team in 2024.
     
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  16. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    [QUOTE="kenntomasch, post: 41605265, member:
    Also, Jacksonville IS getting a USL team in 2025 (Tim Tebow is in the ownership group), and Cleveland is getting an MLS Next Pro team in 2024.[/QUOTE]

    That's good news.
    It's hard to keep up.

    That's what she said.
     
  17. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's good news.
    It's hard to keep up.

    That's what she said.[/QUOTE]
    -------------We've got Rhode Island and Des Moines with slow stadium issues. I thought New Orleans was mentioned at one time. Milwaukee announced and didn't I read of a financing or some other issue?
    Ft Worth was where Austin Bold was to go and I hear that is out.
    And JAX is coming based on having a stadium already in play?
    Sounds like USL is having some problems getting some of these teams over the finish line.

    They still have a Charlotte Independence playing in the shadow of CFC and its reserve team.
    Didn't USL give him an ok to move to another market? Kind of like Austin.
    Maybe he could team up with Wilmington if that is a new project.
    League will have to see what happens to SD Loyal once the MLS kicks up.
    Challenging times in the lower divisions
     
  18. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pfffft. Walk in the park compared to 1997-2012.
     
  19. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    -
    I go back even further after I watched NASL 1.0 go up in flames, college soccer and to a lessor extent indoor soccer was it for a long time and then the alphabet soup of all the leagues that have come and gone.
    I give USL credit for doing better investigation of new owners, they seem to be doing their do-diligence and slow growth like MLS. If fact, because it's 2 or 3rd division, I say they need to be more diligent.
    Props also to building stadiums , also like MLS and also requiring full fields etc. (the issue that keep OKC Energy from playing.). So they are doing a lot of things right.
     
  20. JDogindy

    JDogindy Member

    Nov 20, 2014
    Club:
    Indy Eleven
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Random Indiana FC sighting in the corner. Like, I don't know if they even count, despite their efforts to finally build an actual field and facilities out in Lafayette. They've regularly been the victim of 10-0 drubbings in the NPSL over the years.
     
  21. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Are you aware of the Professional League Standards?
     
  22. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How much do you think NuRock is doing, besides making sure they can collect on their $20 million and that they continue to meet the PLS?

    I guess as real estate investors they can assist teams identify stadium opportunities as part of bigger real estate deals.
     
  23. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  24. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
  25. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If my project had a hotel that fills up regularly, some apartments or condos that have good occupancy and carefully placed retail, restaurants and maybe a grocery store as well, i see positive cadh flows to support my soccer team....
    ......
    Indianapolis is dead center of the state.
    i could us that stadium as location of state finals for soccer, rugby, football etc.
    "all roads lead to indy"
     
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