NISA (New NASL-allied D3 league) Mega-Thread

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    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018
    Also worth noting here that not all “free” tickets are the same. Giving every kid in your youth club a free ticket is different than deflating the ticket value by issuing them to just anybody. That said:

     
  2. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well that's not true if the free tickets are given to an institution, like a school or soccer academy. If they're giving away free tickets to the general public then you're point is valid.

    I see EXP has already made this point.
     
  3. Phenix

    Phenix Member+

    D.C. United
    Oct 5, 2019
    #1628 Phenix, Oct 9, 2021
    Last edited: Oct 9, 2021
    Updated NISA Fall Season Attendance as of 10/8/2021:

    52 matches played

    Detroit City: 6,076/4,664/3,894/3,969/3,689/3,817

    Chattanooga FC: 2,916/2,008/2,158/1,946/1,960/0*

    Michigan Stars: 1,628/1,857/0*/0*/0*

    Chicago House: 1,183/1,013/863

    California United: 653/525/0*/685/1,738/345/415

    New Amsterdam: 278/333/404/319/422

    Maryland Bobcats: 305/362/292/312/0*

    1904 FC: 237/182/393/342/245

    Stumptown: 167/189/164/245/399

    Los Angeles Force: 0/0/175/0/0*

    • Does anyone have the attendance number for the Chattanooga (10/7) home match and Maryland (10/6) home match? Would be greatly appreciated.
    • As always, I chose not to provide the total and average attendance because there are some matches without a reported attendance number, those without attendance numbers reported are marked with an asterisk.
     
  4. Phenix

    Phenix Member+

    D.C. United
    Oct 5, 2019


    Flower City Union Herald Times announced a fundraiser in the sense of fan ownership before ever kicking a ball. Speaking of kicking a ball, they're pondering a 2023 professional start instead of 2022. Their original owner looks like pulled out and are, strangely, asking for more money now.

    Yep, this will go well.
     
  5. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    NISA might want to rethink their business model. Letting anyone in doesn’t seem to be working out.
     
  6. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If they didn't let just anybody in they'd be down to Chattanooga, Detroit and a couple of academy teams.
     
  7. Phenix

    Phenix Member+

    D.C. United
    Oct 5, 2019
    Updated NISA Fall Season Attendance as of 10/12/2021:

    56 matches played

    Detroit City: 6,076/4,664/3,894/3,969/3,689/3,817/4,053

    Chattanooga FC: 2,916/2,008/2,158/1,946/1,960/1,810

    Michigan Stars: 1,628/1,857/0*/0*/0*

    Chicago House: 1,183/1,013/863/0*

    California United: 653/525/0*/685/1,738/345/415

    New Amsterdam: 278/333/404/319/422/360

    Maryland Bobcats: 305/362/292/312/222

    1904 FC: 237/182/393/342/245

    Stumptown: 167/189/164/245/399/398

    Los Angeles Force: 0/0/175/0/0

    • Added Chattanooga, Maryland numbers from 10/6 and 10/7 respectively.
     
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  8. Phenix

    Phenix Member+

    D.C. United
    Oct 5, 2019
    #1633 Phenix, Oct 13, 2021
    Last edited: Oct 13, 2021
    Amid crowded lower-division landscape, NISA is spreading the ‘open-system’ gospel in American soccer – The Athletic

    Decent piece on NISA from the good folks at The Athletic until you get into Peter Wilt and Prutch's comments, which would not recommend unless if you wear rose-tinted glasses and believe in unicorns.

    Exempt from the article:

    Sigh. Look, most American soccer fans, most American sports fans, do not actively support promotion and relegation, nor they don't "need" it or "want" it.

    Nobody needs to upgrade their iPhone every year or two. Nobody wants to change the traffic laws so that drivers now have to drive on their left instead of right because England does it. Wilt is way over his head here.

    Sounds pretty vague, doesn't mention how many teams will "refrain from play", an euphemism of folding next season. Is Stumptown, LA Force and 1904 all accounted for then and basically more than half of the clubs with under 1,000 in average attendance?

    Ok, so the commissioner of NISA isn't aware that he has a third division league already. Things are getting rosy here.

    There's not enough support or value to warrant a second Chicago team in MLS. We already seen the evidence that a Chicago lower division team isn't getting that much support to a point that the team is owned by the wife of New Amsterdam, again no conflict of interests there. But sure, add another hypothetical Chicago team in NISA to cannibalize the other with perhaps less support.
     
  9. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "will they be able to stomach the blandness of expansion teams all named City FC"

    What are the two biggest NISA fan owned teams called again?

     
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  10. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    The Detroit Donkeys and the Chattanooga Choo Choos?
     
  11. Phenix

    Phenix Member+

    D.C. United
    Oct 5, 2019
    Updated NISA Fall Season Attendance as of 10/18/2021:

    61 matches played

    Detroit City: 6,076/4,664/3,894/3,969/3,689/3,817/4,053

    Chattanooga FC: 2,916/2,008/2,158/1,946/1,960/1,810

    Michigan Stars: 1,628/1,857/0*/0*/0*/0*

    Chicago House: 1,183/1,013/863/958

    California United: 653/525/0*/685/1,738/345/415/1,272

    New Amsterdam: 278/333/404/319/422/360

    Maryland Bobcats: 305/362/292/312/222/301

    1904 FC: 237/182/393/342/245/259

    Stumptown: 167/189/164/245/399/398

    Los Angeles Force: 0/0/175/0/0/0
     
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  12. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018
    Actually she’s the third female coach in NISA. I think it’s great that CHAC has done this and is promoting it, but the league has only been playing since 2019: it’s not like they had to dig through troves of archives to see that this statement is not only false, but there’s been a female coach literally every season of NISA’s existence.
     
  14. Expansion Franchise

    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018
    To be fair, they did issue a correction and an apology.
     
  15. Phenix

    Phenix Member+

    D.C. United
    Oct 5, 2019
    Updated NISA Fall Season Attendance as of 10/26/2021:

    68 matches played

    Detroit City: 6,076/4,664/3,894/3,969/3,689/3,817/4,053

    Chattanooga FC: 2,916/2,008/2,158/1,946/1,960/1,810/2,659

    Michigan Stars: 1,628/1,857/0*/0*/0*/0*

    Chicago House: 1,183/1,013/863/958/663/939

    California United: 653/525/0*/685/1,738/345/415/1,272

    New Amsterdam: 278/333/404/319/422/360

    Maryland Bobcats: 305/362/292/312/222/301

    1904 FC: 237/182/393/342/245/259/301

    Stumptown: 167/189/164/245/399/398/362

    Los Angeles Force: 0/0/175/0/0/0/0/0

    • Novelty is wearing off for Chicago, down to triple-digit attendance (average attendance of 937 total so far). Thought Peter Wilt got this whole independent soccer league with an open system in the bag... He did say he needs 5,000 fans every match to break even, apparently he's about 4,000 people short. What does Chicago House owner who is also the wife of New Amsterdam's owner think?
    • Los Angeles Force still has no fans, or permanent stadium.
     
  16. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm trying to work out why LA Force are in NISA. Are they meant to be a showcase for FC Golden State Force academy?
     
  17. Phenix

    Phenix Member+

    D.C. United
    Oct 5, 2019
    Pretty much, honestly.
     
  18. canammj

    canammj Member

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    I kind of wonder about Witt.
    Chicago Fire
    \/
    Indy 11
    \/
    NIsa

    Seems like a downward spiral.
    Love Detroits effort to be different, but just join USL-1 (or USL-C) if they can afford it. Heck Oakland made the jump. Let the rest of the teams (if they even last long enough) drop to NPSL or USL-2 and be done with this nightmare.
     
  19. Phenix

    Phenix Member+

    D.C. United
    Oct 5, 2019
    New team announced. Wonder what Syracusans think when they cheer for a team that has glow lights as colors with no orange involved. Alongside one of the worst logos I've seen, worse than San Francisco Deltas - likely how this will turn out.

    What's funny is Prutch looked like he didn't want to be there. Lol.

     
  20. bnyc

    bnyc Member

    Jan 20, 2015
    New York
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    They will be playing in local college soccer stadium that seats 2,000.
     
  21. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  22. Phenix

    Phenix Member+

    D.C. United
    Oct 5, 2019
  23. canammj

    canammj Member

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  24. Phenix

    Phenix Member+

    D.C. United
    Oct 5, 2019
    Updated NISA Fall Season Attendance as of 11/1/2021:

    73 matches played

    Detroit City: 6,076/4,664/3,894/3,969/3,689/3,817/4,053/3,833

    Chattanooga FC: 2,916/2,008/2,158/1,946/1,960/1,810/2,659

    Michigan Stars: 1,628/1,857/0*/0*/0*/0*/0* (Michigan has no fans)

    Chicago House: 1,183/1,013/863/958/663/939

    California United: 653/525/0*/685/1,738/345/415/1,272

    New Amsterdam: 278/333/404/319/422/360/574

    Maryland Bobcats: 305/362/292/312/222/301/372

    1904 FC: 237/182/393/342/245/259/301/0* (probably in the lower to mid-300's)

    Stumptown: 167/189/164/245/399/398/362

    Los Angeles Force: 0/0/175/0/0/0/0/0
     
  25. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wikipedia has a link to the Michigan vs. Chicago match report. This is it in all its glory:


    The Michigan Stars 2020/21 Wikipedia entry stops right there.
     

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