NISA (New NASL-allied D3 league) Mega-Thread

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  1. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The biggest name in North American football!

    I doubt the they will be joining USL anytime soon unless Queensboro fail to materialize.
     
  2. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Even then, that bridge may have been napalmed and the smoldering remains shot into deep space.
     
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  3. canammj

    canammj Member

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Still, would have been fun to see what the Cosmos in MLS would have been like.
    I can't remember when (year wise) when it "didn't happen" and what the size of MLS was around that time.
    Would the name been enough? Obviously to match the rosters the original Cosmos had may have been tough and would they have tried to play in the Meadowland again or stake out a different part of NY?
     
  4. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #979 Paul Berry, Sep 16, 2020
    Last edited: Sep 16, 2020
    Sela Sports bought the Cosmos in October 2011 with the intention of them competing in MLS. However they balked at the $100 million expansion fee.

    Garber then reached out to Ferran Soriano, the newly appointed CEO of Man City, who he knew from discussions over a Miami bid.

    The proposed stadium location was near Belmont Park, a shitty location imho, as bad if not worse than Harrison.

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    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018
  6. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    Upward movement to a better league. Yay.
     
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  7. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They barely drew less and both where the only ones averaging over 5k. So it’s still a blow to the league. Chattanooga and Cosmos get around 2-3k.
     
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    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018
    So nothing in my comment was wrong. They're not the most popular team and they didn't draw more than half the total fans.

    Absolutely, which is why fans of NISA clubs are disappointed by it. Saying that the above claims are hyperbolic isn't undermining Oakland's success or how their departure leaves a large crater.
    However, the implication of "drew more than the other league members combined" is that their absence is leaving NISA a hollow shell, which is hardly the case.
    Nobody is denying that Oakland was the flagship of the NISA western teams, but they were 1 of 4 "big" clubs in the league. 25% is significant, without a doubt. But still a minority.

    FC Cincinnati literally compiled about 20% of USL's total attendance, even with clubs like the Republic averaging 11k, but nobody thought their departure to MLS was leaving behind an empty husk of a league.
    I know there is a lot of disagreement about Cosmos' numbers and I'm in no position to defend or dispute them. CFC's are 3-4k, however, with many more than 5 home games ever in their history.

    I am personally of the opinion that any lower division team that averages over 3k is doing pretty damned good, especially in D3.

    And, again, I don't think it's dismissing what they've done so far to question the hype of a team that's existed for a year and a half, is joining their 3rd league in 15 months, has two total wins, and Dame Lillard wore their jersey on TV once.
    You can be both impressed and skeptical of the hype, especially when part of their mythos seems be based on specious claims.
     
  9. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The switch to USL hasn't really worked out for Miami. 9 points from 11 games.

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  10. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018
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  12. 2in10

    2in10 Member+

    Reno 1868 FC, LA Galaxy, Internazionale
    United States
    Jun 19, 2016
    Sparks, NV
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe NPSL and UPSL rebuffed them also. There seems to be a lot of understandable league insularity that is possibly perpetuating to lack of working together.
     
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    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018
    Sure. I mean everybody’s got to get their hustle and show that they’re the ones doing it right.
     
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  14. JDogindy

    JDogindy Member

    Nov 20, 2014
    Club:
    Indy Eleven
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  15. IronHorseFC

    IronHorseFC Member

    D.C. United
    Oct 5, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    NISA is where USL used to be circa 2014. Another layer with affiliate amateur leagues. Yawn. Done many times before.

    Really funny to see reactionary people in the social webs saying that would lead to their Anglophile system of internal sporting bliss.
     
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    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018
    NISA’s bubble tournament starts tomorrow in Detroit



    the groups are:
    Group A
    Oakland Roots
    Michigan Stars
    Detroit City FC
    New Amsterdam FC

    Group B:
    Chattanooga FC
    Cal United Strikers
    New York Cosmos
    LA Force

    2 games played each day, broadcast on BeIN Sports Xtra
     
  17. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Chattanooga is going to dominate that group.
     
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    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018
    Possibly, but that’s what they get for being the top seed in the tournament.
    Cosmos will, too, though, so the CFC/Cosmos game will be the important one, although I would expect them both to advance.
     
  19. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Remember the days when Chattanooga filled their stadium to watch Cosmos B?



    Isn't promotion and relegation great!
     
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    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018
    I am pretty sure that if they were hosting the NISA final and could have more than COVID capacity crowds, you would see something similar.
     
  21. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Eh, Cosmos aren’t that impressive. They really need a new owner.
     
  22. IronHorseFC

    IronHorseFC Member

    D.C. United
    Oct 5, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #997 IronHorseFC, Sep 20, 2020
    Last edited: Sep 20, 2020
    Very smart for NISA to put the start time of the tournament matches on a weekday during when people are coming home from work, MLB, NHL games and Monday Night Football happens.

    Monday's ratings will soar.
     
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    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018
    Do you actually think anyone not associated with a club is really tuning in anyway?
     
  24. IronHorseFC

    IronHorseFC Member

    D.C. United
    Oct 5, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #999 IronHorseFC, Sep 20, 2020
    Last edited: Sep 20, 2020
    In America's arguably fifth most popular sport with already lackluster TV ratings? No, sir. That's why its on Bein's freemium channels.
     
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    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018
    Well, you clown on it, but the fact that, say, Michigan Stars/New Amsterdam will appear on the cable guide for normal people in a whole slew of major cities seems... not insignificant for a league of NISA’s stature?

    Granted, it would be nice if NISA teams were in more than 2 of them...
     

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