Nick Garcia to Norway?

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by jri, Nov 22, 2004.

  1. jri

    jri Red Card

    Sep 28, 2000
    boca
  2. Octavius Agustus

    Octavius Agustus New Member

    Jun 5, 2004
    33RD sTREET
    There are so many YA's now.

    Cherundolo's Hannover had a game today and not one thread.
     
  3. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    If nothing else, an offer from Norway gives Nick leverage in his dealings with MLS.

    I see more and more US players going to Norway. The level of play is good but not vastly superior to MLS but the pay is much better and its easier to get spotted for a bigger team.
     
  4. speedcake

    speedcake Member

    Dec 2, 1999
    Tampa
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Norwegian is just one of many second tier leagues that get overlooked all too often. I'd imagine we'll start seeing players take more and more chances in leagues outside of the big five or six. And even amongst the very top leagues we really only have a big showing in two of them; England and Germany.

    There are just a ton of opportunities, a ton of good, solid clubs throughout Western Europe that our quickly improving player pool can be a benefit to and benefit from.

    There will always be only so many top Pro clubs in the U.S.A. Relegation arguably will never catch on; maybe it will, but I'd bet mucho dinero that it never will. So in the future there will always be far fewer roster spots than capable players in the U.S. and without established 2nd or 3rd divisions those players are going overseas.

    It all seems to add up to a scenario where we could always see a good number of highly talented players kickin' it in Europe (and elsewhere eventually I'd imagine). And definately a good number of not so highly talented ones, too.
     
  5. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    Kerry has an Irish granmama, so he has high hopes for a Euro passport.
     
  6. jri

    jri Red Card

    Sep 28, 2000
    boca
    Sweet (told ya' that Irish thing is gold!)....good luck to him..I think he can/will make it in Europe if he wants.

    A Garcia deal would be sweet as well. Another defender in UEFA AND the Royal League....wow
     
  7. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    Norway seems to be a good fit for Nick's athleticism.

    And since he's out of a contract, his price must be just right for Brann.

    And maybe after a while there, he'll learn to play Esky's left shoulder first.
     
  8. CG

    CG Member

    Jul 25, 2001

    :D


    baffles me when players don't make the attackers go to their weaker foot.
     
  9. Skurwiel007

    Skurwiel007 Member

    Jun 12, 2004
    The level of play in Norway is not better than in MLS.The level is the same or even MLS is a little bit better.
     
  10. pething101

    pething101 Member

    Jul 31, 2001
    Smyrna, Ga
    Club:
    West Ham United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What about the money?
     
  11. savan

    savan New Member

    May 16, 2004
    Norway
    And tell me - how many matches have you seen from Tippeligaen? I doubt that many.. RBK would kick any MLS teams a$$ any day :rolleyes: ;)
     
  12. Deimos

    Deimos Member

    Apr 23, 1999
    Louisville, KY, USA
    I've seen some matches from the Norwegian League and yes, RBK is better than any MLS team, but because of the nature of the leagues, there is more parity in MLS. Sogndal, for example, would have a very difficult time in MLS.

    I'm not sure why this is so important.
     
  13. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    Follow it.
     
  14. savan

    savan New Member

    May 16, 2004
    Norway
    What a suprise.. The team that is no longer in the norwegian league wouldn't have made it against any MLS team, so what? They didn't make it against norwegian teams either.. That's way they ended last, and therefor is now in 1 divison?!!!!
     
  15. mschofield

    mschofield Member+

    May 16, 2000
    Berlin
    Club:
    Union Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    The obvious answer to the league quality question is a league vs league matchup. Man, MLS and Norway, there's a made for TV battle of the Titans...
    As expressed earlier, whether one league is superior matters not much, and is a pointlessly subjective discussion, regardless. Whether one league pays better does matter, and is far more objective. So, after RBK, how much better is the pay in Norway? Just asking, because I have no idea.
     
  16. Elninho

    Elninho Member+

    Sacramento Republic FC
    United States
    Oct 30, 2000
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They do the same thing in Norway. My best assessment of MLS relative to Norway is that EVERY team in MLS would finish between 3rd and 8th in the Norwegian league. The difference between the top and bottom of MLS is that small.
     
  17. soccerme

    soccerme New Member

    Jul 5, 2001
    Here... Here... there is no money in the MLS...DUH. Your right the YA's need to do what they need to do to get the best deal. It is their livelyhood. They as players deserve the best that they can get. Parity in the MLS is boredom. MLS as a league will always be one step behind until it is changed from one poker player holding all the cards
     
  18. Deimos

    Deimos Member

    Apr 23, 1999
    Louisville, KY, USA
    IIRC some MLS teams and some Norwegian teams played in a preseason tournament in Portugal, perhaps. I remember a Norwegian team winning, but the games were about even. Was it Batalha Das Equipes Gigantes
     
  19. mschofield

    mschofield Member+

    May 16, 2000
    Berlin
    Club:
    Union Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    So, not to get off topic, but is there an update on Nick Garcia to norway? How is the trial going, and is a contract coming?
     
  20. BuffloSoldier

    BuffloSoldier BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 31, 2000
    Northern NJ
  21. Red Raider

    Red Raider New Member

    Feb 4, 2000
    Yes, as the article about Meola speculates, I think it is all about the salary cap. In MLS, if you negotiate a contract for higher pay, or if you are capped and become an international and get the money you deserve, you have a good chance of getting dropped the next year if the club has salary cap issues.

    It's like you get rewarded for experience and performance by getting cut or traded.

    In most of the rest of football, you sign a contract for a set period and that contract obligates the club and the player.

    What's so hard to understand? More money, more security, potential to be seen by quality European clubs, and beautiful scenery and people who really care about football. Whether MLS's single entity is a model for the development of a business enterprise or a quality soccer league that will win the hearts and minds of our people is the question in the balance.

    Every year, more MLS developed players are in the same position, and of course more quality young players come along who can play the game and will take a pittance to keep playing soccer. However, if the league continues to lose its experienced players with whom fans identify, will the league develop commited followers?

    The jury is still out.
     
  22. gwebster

    gwebster New Member

    Aug 30, 2002
    Bethany, CT
    Are you thinking of the La Manga cup? Rosenborg has won it 3 times:

    http://www.rsssf.com/tablesl/lamanga.html
     
  23. mschofield

    mschofield Member+

    May 16, 2000
    Berlin
    Club:
    Union Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    1. I would love to know the German club Garcia is looking into. Any clues.
    2. If KZ gets an irish passport, I'd think a $66k a year player with his ability can find a home and much better paycheck very quickly.
    3. Too bad the wizards are moving Meola.
    4. I hope they take the champions cup seriously. it's not much of a cup, but it should be getting better, and should at least provide a format for the US-Mexico rivalry, if anyone would take it seriously.
     
  24. Deimos

    Deimos Member

    Apr 23, 1999
    Louisville, KY, USA
    That's it, I forgot that the MetroStars won it last year.
     

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