NGR: Guzans work permit denied, returns from Aston Villa

Discussion in 'LA Galaxy' started by JuiceBox, Jan 31, 2008.

  1. JuiceBox

    JuiceBox Member

    Mar 27, 2006
    Riverside, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  2. shirteesdotnet

    Feb 13, 2007
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Couldnt Celtic still make a bid for him?
     
  3. Soccer Obsession

    Jun 13, 2007
    Pasadena
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    bad for villa, bad for the US team, bad for the galaxy. but i still don't really care that much
     
  4. cliche_guevara

    cliche_guevara Member+

    Jun 1, 2004
    San Francisco, CA
    Not really. It's a British work permit, not an English work permit that was denied.
     
  5. Hushx

    Hushx Member

    Aug 20, 2007
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm sorry, but can you clarify your answer cliche? I thought Scotland had their own parliament and other legal systems of government independent of the British no?
     
  6. ragbone

    ragbone Member+

    Sep 2, 2005
    Santo Tomas, Batangas, Philippines.
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'll answer with a question...

    Do you get a US work permit or a California work permit.

    Great Britain is a country. Scotland and England are the equivalent of US states.

    California has a government, too. It doesn't mean it can issue a passport (or work permit). When Beckham came he didn't get a California visa. It was issued by the US government, and the situations are exactly the same.
     
  7. cliche_guevara

    cliche_guevara Member+

    Jun 1, 2004
    San Francisco, CA
    Scotland, England, Wales, and N. Ireland are all part of the United Kingdom, whose parliament is in London. Scotland has their own parliament also, but the big boys are elected to represent their districts (throughout the UK) in the house of commons - the supreme legislature of the land. The home office (who issues work permits) is run by these guys.

    As I understand it, it's like this: If my US visa is denied, I can't play in the Galaxy here in CA, RBNY in NY, or anywhere else in the US even though we all have separate state legislatures. Same goes for Guzan in the UK - whether it's Aston Villa in England or Celtic in Scotland. :D
     
  8. cliche_guevara

    cliche_guevara Member+

    Jun 1, 2004
    San Francisco, CA
    Damn, beat me to it.
     
  9. Hushx

    Hushx Member

    Aug 20, 2007
    Los Angeles
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
    Ah ok - that makes sense. Thank you guys.
     
  10. Spry

    Spry Member

    Apr 25, 2006
    Pasadena
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Soon enought it'll be Steve Cronin in these shoes. I think we'll see him in goal vs. Mexico.
     
  11. Soccer Obsession

    Jun 13, 2007
    Pasadena
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I really doubt it... Its gotta be Howard
     
  12. Spry

    Spry Member

    Apr 25, 2006
    Pasadena
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nah there's already 4 goalkeepers in camp. We're deep here. No need for Howard. Plus the roster "will be finalized prior to the team’s departure from Carson" on February 3rd. Howard has a game on the February 2nd. So unless he's already been asked and committed, he ain't coming.
     
  13. dashiel

    dashiel Member+

    Jul 15, 2000
    orange county
    i dare you to say that to a scot or welshman :)

    your analogy is accurate, but england and scotland are both countries. technically great britain is simply a moniker for the land mass that comprises of the countries england, scotland and wales. the united kingdom is the proxy country comprised of england, northern ireland, scotland and wales.

    i suspect guzan will be gone by the end of next season which is bad for MLS, but funny for us. no contract, brad goes on a free, no money for MLS, but no money for chivas.
     
  14. FlapJack

    FlapJack Member+

    Mar 3, 2006
    Los Angeles
    Dashiel, sometimes you really know the right thing to say to brighten someone's day.:)
     
  15. Going Mobile

    Going Mobile Member

    Apr 15, 2004
    Club:
    CD Chivas USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    according to this Brad will be back with the USMNT on Feb 2nd, he'll be ready for duty.

    http://chivas.usa.mlsnet.com/news/t...ent_id=137292&vkey=pr_cdc&fext=.jsp&team=t120

    Dashiel while I agree he may we not get any money I have to wonder if MLS won't pressure Guzan to sign a one year deal just so they don't lose out on the 4M
     
  16. The Cadaver

    The Cadaver It's very quiet here.

    Oct 24, 2000
    La Cañada, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What kind of "pressure" do you have in mind? If he wants to go on a free transfer ultimately there's not much that MLS can do about it. Brad's holding all the cards now that AV has indicated that strong an interest. Any team in a country without such restrictive work permits now has Guzano on its radar screen, and Brad knows it. Or Brad could insist on contract terms that give him a larger share of any future transfer payment.
     
  17. The Cadaver

    The Cadaver It's very quiet here.

    Oct 24, 2000
    La Cañada, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, I suppose MLS could say, "Brad, unless you sign on our terms we are going to assign you to play for Chivas - bwahahahah! Err, ooops, we already did that, didn't we? Never mind."
     
  18. Hachiko

    Hachiko The Akita on Big Soccer

    Jun 8, 2005
    Long Beach, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  19. FlapJack

    FlapJack Member+

    Mar 3, 2006
    Los Angeles
    That made me laugh. I'm out of rep, though.:eek:
     

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