NFR: Copa America Centenario Everything Thread

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  1. Jiggly_333

    Jiggly_333 Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 8, 2015
    Corner of Bedlam and Squalor (It's that way ->)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    And the wave has begun.
    I hate tourists.
     
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  2. Jiggly_333

    Jiggly_333 Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 8, 2015
    Corner of Bedlam and Squalor (It's that way ->)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Jamaica was good at the start and end of that half. Hopefully they get more consistent in the second.
     
  3. loonixxx

    loonixxx Member+

    Chicago Red Stars
    Aug 28, 2004
    Soccer Limbo
    Club:
    Jagiellonia Bialystok SSA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Can't believe the studio thinks that was a justified red... Wait yes I can. Morans.
     
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  4. We didn't even get a replay at NSF. We're not getting at least 80% of the replays and when they do show them they're two minutes after the play.
     
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  5. Jiggly_333

    Jiggly_333 Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 8, 2015
    Corner of Bedlam and Squalor (It's that way ->)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Pretty sure Jamaica has more MLS players than US.
     
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  6. ratdog

    ratdog Member+

    Mar 22, 2004
    In the doghouse
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    FIFA has just announced that Mexico has been preemptively awarded a penalty kick to be taken in tonight's match against Uruguay. #FIFACorrupta
     
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  7. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Better than that
    Sorry, but that was a red card. He's lucky that he didn't brake his ankle with that tackle. Yes he got the ball first, but studs up on his ankle is a red card.
     
  8. loonixxx

    loonixxx Member+

    Chicago Red Stars
    Aug 28, 2004
    Soccer Limbo
    Club:
    Jagiellonia Bialystok SSA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Disagree. 50/50 ball.
     
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  9. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes it was a 50/50 ball, but you have to be in control of your tackle. Venezuela was lucky that he doesn't have a broken ankle on that tackle.
     
  10. Jiggly_333

    Jiggly_333 Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 8, 2015
    Corner of Bedlam and Squalor (It's that way ->)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Not what we wanted, but I think they can jump back. Maybe Venezuela can upset Mexico (that would be fun).
     
  11. krolpolski

    krolpolski Member+

    My son graduated from BG today, too.
     
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  12. sportscrazed2

    sportscrazed2 Member+

    Jul 30, 2008
    Mordor, Middle Earth
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Anyone taking the 636 metra electric from 18th street want to bring me starbucks
    It was a decent game. Can't complain for the price most certainly. I can complain about security taking my water and making me pay $10 for coors light. The view is certainly better than a Bridge
     
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  13. Pennsylvania Dave

    Jul 31, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Well ultimately the claimed attendence was 25,000ish but in a 60,000 plus stadium it looked empty as hell. Naturally we moved up without trouble but ate the cost of the 6th ticket. Referee was horrible and that was no red card offense! Pitch looked horrible and slow. Expect the same slow pitch for USA on Tuesday. I mean the ball was just dying on passes and through balls. Jamaica hit wood work twice and should have had a peno in the opening minutes.

    Proof; dude got ball first. Not a red card.

    Hghlights
     
  14. Pennsylvania Dave

    Jul 31, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Sometimes people get hurt on 50/50 balls. It's a free ball for the taking and it's a contact sport. No malicious intent to harm the other guy so yellow at very worst. The referee decided the outcome with his shitty calls.
     
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  15. Jiggly_333

    Jiggly_333 Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 8, 2015
    Corner of Bedlam and Squalor (It's that way ->)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Finally I see a replay of that play and WOW is that a horrible call! He clearly got the ball first and it almost seems like it was the Venezuelan player fouled him.

    Although, if you watch it in real time it does look like a dangerous play, but the referee didn't even use best judgement for the situation. If you call a foul, that's a yellow judging on a no-zoom, real-time scenario.

    Idiot ref. Didn't even give Muhammad Ali more than 3 seconds of silence, but stopped the game for a cameraman (and didn't add it to extra time)
     
  16. Pennsylvania Dave

    Jul 31, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    FYP

    When we found out the officiating crew was all Peruvian we looked at each other and simultaneously declared Jamaica was screwed.
     
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  17. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    S
    Sorry a studs up tackle, I don't care if it was a 50/50 challenge, that was a red card.
     
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  18. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    Correct.
     
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  19. Pennsylvania Dave

    Jul 31, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    It was not a studs up tackle. The guy was kicking the ball and as he was coming down the Venezuela player put his leg in the same place the Jamaican player was about to put his leg. If you watch the play the Venezuela player had his leg in every bit of a "studs up" position as the Jamaican but doesn't get to the ball first. Again, there is no malicious INTENT which for me doesn't deserve to be a red nor does it warrant changing the outcome of the match (which it most probably did).
     
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  20. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    That has nothing to do with the rules of soccer though. Red card. Good call.
     
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  21. Pennsylvania Dave

    Jul 31, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Slicing and dicing Law 12-Fouls and Misconduct
    One could argue there was careless or reckless or use of excessive force however is it not the Jamaican's job to clear the ball from his defensive zone? He did that and the Venezuelan was the careless and reckless participant. If you were to cross the street without looking first and get hit by a car is it the driver's fault or yours? There was nothing UNSPORTING about the tackle, it was not VIOLENT CONDUCT nor was he DENYING AN OBVIOUS GOAL SCORING OPPORTUNITY. The Venezuelan made it DANGEROUS, not the Jamaican. I will just never agree with you about this.

    Furthermore Law 12 states that, "a player who plays in a reckless manner shall be cautioned." = Yellow card. So if it was a reckless clearance/tackle it was a yellow caution worthy circumstance.

    A player using "Excessive Force" shall be sent off. I don't feel he used excessive force to kick the ball. It was basically an unfortunate collision of two players so to me is not worthy of applying the "Excessive Force" clause of law 12, thus not a Red Card.

    It's all right there in the Laws of the Game.
     
  22. lncolnpk

    lncolnpk Member+

    Mar 5, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I see it like how they call high stick in hockey. If it is during the natural follow through of a shot and the stick makes contact with an opposing players head, it is NOT a penalty.
     
  23. lethargytartare

    lethargytartare Member+

    Oct 2, 2000
    Magrathea, Horsehead Nebula
    Club:
    Yeovil Town FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    incorrect. it wasn't even a tackle. He just kicked the ball and followed through. I understand what it looked like to the ref and why he made the mistake, but it was simply a bad call. That's not even a foul.
     
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  24. sportscrazed2

    sportscrazed2 Member+

    Jul 30, 2008
    Mordor, Middle Earth
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well if anything the laws of the game have been proven to be more like the Pirates Code where they are more like guidelines then actual rules. From my $6 seat it looked like 2 players both playing a 50/50 ball and unfortunately timed it wrong. It was probably yellow worthy but I doubt red. But who am I but a person who decided to get his vitamin D the natural way?
     
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  25. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    Completely irrelevant. It's the job of the opponent to keep it there.

    The defender is responsible for his follow through.
     

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