.Who do you think is currently the best players out of all of them? .Who do you think will perform the best at the 2014 World Cup .Rate them in Order
I honestly don't rate Ganso at all (admitedly I don't see the Brasilian league, but on Brasil games I have yet to see him convince me on any level in ca 10-12 games). Pato and Robinho can perform, but don't have the star potential or consistency. I would say its between Lucas Moura and Neymar, although the list should also have Leandro Damiao.
1. Neymar * 2. Kaka 3. Hulk 4. Marcelo 5. Maicon 6. Lucas Moura * 7. Ganso * 8. Damiao 9. Pato * (has better skills than Damiao but, lacks killer instinct) 10. Hernanes 11. Robinho * 12. Ronaldinho
your continuous ONE LINER post won't help ... Overated or underated are "relative" terms depending on WHERE you stand and WHOM they are referred to... OK? For example, if refer to Pele, Ronaldo (at such young ages) Neymar is a bit overated Agreed but if we refer him to recent names like Aneka (late 90's), Saviola, Rooney, Robinho (mid 00's) and lately Wilshere, Thiago, Pastore ... Neymar is well spot on. The way he plays (well) for Brazil NT (besides his Santos club) shows his ability to do JUST FINE in big clubs of Europe. If his price tag was ~40mils - I am sure he won't do worse than the "overated" Torres or older Sheva (by Chelsea with same price tag for much older ages)
Straight out man I hate when people say Neymar is overrated. He is the best young talent out today. Everyone is just jealous because they know Brazil have the best players, and are the only country that can play real joga bonito style. Anyway How is he overrated if he has scored 8 goals in 14 games for Brazil national team?? Messi cant even do that now for argentina, let alone when he was 19. Messi has only scored 18 goals in 64 games. which is a preety poor ratio. Messi only scores heaps for Barcelona because he has Xavi, Iniesta, Fabregas with him. Also Neymar scored a mad goal the other day against Botafogo. The only thing Neymar needs to do is put on 5kg, and he will become the best. Lucas Moura is underrated, so i was suprised when you put him down as overrated. He is sooo fast and his acceleration is veryy quick, and can dribble just like neymar and messi. Lucas Moura is defiently the new Ronaldinho/Kaka. Go and check out his goal against Argentina, he ran the whole field from halfway and no one caught him. Pato is not overrated at all, he has been injured too many times. and has not had the time to prove himself. Robinho is still alright player, but in real madrid he was so much better. Ganso. he has been injured too many times like pato. Ganso is very good, but just slow How the hell can you call Ronaldinho overrated! he was much better then C.Ronaldo in his barcelona days. In his prime he was a Machine. he is in the Top 10 players of all time.
First of all you are pretty ignorant if you think comparing someone with just over 10 matches ratio vs someone with over 60 matches. Is someone who scored 2 goals in 1 game for his NT the best player ever for a NT team or what? trolololol. 2nd Messi also has 20 assists for Argentina, so its 18 goals and 20 assists which is quite good and not nearly as bad as some make it out to be.
Messi is the best player in the world, but he does not play good for his National Team. Neymar will become as good or even better in a couple of years.
And how many of those goals and assists were in competitive games? Answer as far as goals: 7 goals in 41 games. Messi notched up 20 assists, half of which are from this year. Of those 10 four are from competitive matches, the rest are from meaningless friendlies. In total Messi has player 41 competitive games for Argentina and has notched up 7 goals and 10 assists. That means that the remaining 11 goals and 10 assists were scored in the twenty-odd friendlies he played...
Yeah right. On the internet, mostly by Brazil fans. Proof: I mean seriously? You got to admit that's ridiculous.
Neymar is overrated, because he hasn't done much yet, but still recieves praise as he is the next Ronaldo. Robinho anyone?
I don't know if he is overrated, but I don't get him being praised likes he's already up there with the world greats. At the moment I am more convinced by players like Goetze or Hazard or even the u17 revelation Souleymane Coulibaly (and his input at the Nextgen series) than Neymar to tell the truth. And all that talk that he is way ahead of everyone else in the pack - bull. At the moment Neymar is just too easily taken off the ball by more physical defenders.
well, thats just MEDIA ... definitely he is NO RONALDO (not in same style nor in same skillset) He is more like Ronaldinho However he is still CLOSER to the "next Ronaldo" than many in the past: Saviola, Tevez , Aimar , Riquelme (next maradona) or Robinho, Rooney (next Pele)
Irrelevant. The point I was addressing is that Messi is "poor" for his NT. However his numbers would suggest otherwise, even if you only take competitive matches into account he makes almost 0.5 goals/assists per game. That ratio is not great but its not bad as some ppl make it out to be either. Pretty much EVERY soccer player has a much worse ratio for his NT than his club side which is quite logical if you think about it.
The reason I think people say Neymar is overrated, is because everyone in the world in talking about Neymar, and he still has not moved to europe to prove himself and he only 19 and being compared with the big players already. If you think he is overrated then thats your opinion, and everyone has has there own opinion, and I think he is not overrated. so im just telling you the reason why i think he is not overrated. he wont be the new Ronaldo 9, because they dont play that similar. Neymar is more tricky. but he could be as effective. and Lucas Moura is really good, and has a combination of both Ronaldinho and Kaka. But we all just got to wait until he moves to europe, until then we can only wonder.
Why does Neymar need to prove himself? I personally hope Neymar stays in brasil and never goes to europe and wins the world cup in 2014 and becomes a national hero like pele and say "f you" to the europeans
I agree with Gaucho. I feel it's a bit eurocentered for a player having to play in Europe or even in a big league to prove himself. Not all the world's best players play in a top team in the top 5 leagues and moving to a top 5 league doesn't automatically make them better... What matters is results and general play. I think he can play for Santos and still be one of the best (granted he performs for his national team). He's not quite there yet anyways... 0,41 goals/assists per game to be exact. Nonetheless his ration is very much below that of the greats.
I know, there is nothing so good about La Liga. all they have is Barcelona and Real madrid. the other teams are nothing. but many people wont consider him as the best if he doesnt go europe.
Who said anything about greats, the OP was comparing his stats to Neymar and somehow implying that with his 14 matches and 7 goals he is far better for his NT while Messi sucks.
It is really amazing how people diss Neymar and say he hasn't proven much and for some posters to come here and say they are convinced more by Goetze! That is eurocentrism at its best. Neymar proved himself by carrying a Santos sans Ganso last Copa Libertadores and was amazing also being topscorer in SA youth championship yet some guy who barely played a continental tourney "proved" more. I advice haters to stick with the usual comments, like "Neyamr is too weak to play in Europe" or "He dribbles too much" rather than making a fool of themself.
Exactly man, but haters will always be haters. Doesnt matter how good Neymar is, Because if someone doesnt like him then they will talk crap. But Neymar is going to be one of the best, if not the best soon.
Well as a south american, we have to constantly hear about the greatness of the European leagues and its like "this guys isn't any good because he's in south america" but then as soon as he's in europe, all the europeans are raving about him I take the Colombian Radamel Falcao for example... He always showed potential at my club and we all believed hew would be great in the right situation... and look what he did! Scored more goals in 2 seasons at Porto than he did in 5 at River! And now look at him at Atletico! Or I look at this new kid Erik Lamela for Roma... For my club he played 36 games and had 4 goals and 4 assists, but always showed potential... I know some Roma fans were like "we overpaid for him" and I was like, no you underpaid for him... He had been half fit at the time we sold him and he never quite could handle the pressure of playing for River Plate fighting relegation, and in the end, it was his 1 vs. 1 miss against Lanus in the last game of the season that sealed our fate and forced us to play the promotion play offs... yet people were asking if he could handle the"pressure" of Rome... its like yea "the most successful club in argentine futbol with 65,000 fans at every game fighting relegation for the first time in history isn't pressure, but going to Roma a team with no history of winning trophies and plays in half empty stadium is PRESSURE because its in Europe" Well it took Lamela 7 minutes into his Roma career to score a golazo and shut those fools up Its the same thing with Neymar... People say, yea but can he handle the pressure of playing at Real Madrid... LOL of course he can. I take this quote from Rivaldo. The writer tellss him "the Pressure at Barcelona is greater than anywhere else in the world." Rivaldo replies: "I don't think so. The greatest pressure I experienced in Brazil at Corinthians and Palmeiras. The pressure in Brazil is a little complicated. They threaten your family, they damage your car, and its a little complicated. If you were to have the results at Palmeiras thhat we've been having at Barcelona recently, you wouldn't be able to walk down the street." As for Neymar being weak, the defending in the Copa Libertadores is 10X more physical than in the Spanish La Liga. I think a lot of people don't watch south american games and just assume its like La Liga because so many flair players come from there they assume the defending is bad, but the defending i see from paraguayan teams in the copa libertadores is 5X better than 80% of the defending in La Liga... and i don't mean individual players, but defending as a team and as a unit.
Do you think he did enough to be rated the SECOND best player in the world? Or that a guy who barely played two seasons (Lucas Moura) is the next Ronaldinho? If not then you might see where the overrated tag comes from. I'm clearly a eurocentric hater for saying Neymar isn't even close to be the #2 player worldwide.