Next manager after Poch

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by keller4president, Apr 17, 2026.

  1. grandinquisitor28

    Feb 11, 2002
    Nevada
    There's literally zero chance whatsoever Matarazzo would coach the USMNT now. He's literally never been valued more as a club coach in the European game. He had some success in Stuttgart before things went south, same with Hoffenheim, now he completely turned around Real Sociedad's season and won them a Copa Del Ray. Coaches are on short leashes, but his value in the game has never been higher after this performance and his entire career has been about building himself into a European club coach and he's in the process of reaching the pinnacle, winning his first major trophy.

    We might have a chance at him for the '34 or '38 cycle, but I see zero chance whatsoever he's here for this cycle, only exception I could see for that, is as a care taker hired if our first hire goes sideways and he gets sacked again in the next 18 months or so in Spain, and even that isn't what we want or envision. Those of us who want him, want him for a full cycle, and that's probably not remotely a possibility until '34 or '38 at the earliest.
     
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  2. Grumpy in LA

    Grumpy in LA Bringing It Since 1807™

    Sep 10, 2007
    Chicago
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Are we still obligated to make sure that somebody suggests Jose Mourinho every few pages? Trying to figure out how much sage I need to burn.
     
  3. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    I bet he's angling for a phonecall.
     
  4. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well he’s not leaving Real Madrid for the US job. But he could also flame out quickly there.
     
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  5. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    people dont recognize that managers change, though. after the usmnt, bob bradley went on to manage the egyptian nt, in the prem, ligue 1 and norway. that didnt make him a top tier manager but it did make him a substantially different (and better) manager. but to this day all people see is "empty bucket".

    arena otoh was easily the best american manager we had ever seen, caught lightning in a bottle and- in a mindset weve seen all too frequently with players- didnt think any offers he got to manager abroad were "worthy" of his genius. and while staying in mls his entire philosophy changed to 3 "stars" and 8 worker bees. in fairness to him thats enough in mls (and one of many reasons we cant use success in mls as a primary factor), but he was completely at sea when rehired- and everyone acts mystified he wasnt the returning conqueror.

    its one thing having zero nuance, understanding, lowest common denominator dumbassery on bs- just as it is annoying to have blind eurosnobbery- but thats been our fed as well; ever since bruce wasnt able to magically catch every break needed (between taking every bit of advantage we could) in 06.
     
  6. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    i dont really agree with this. i think hes proven at multiple clubs that he can stabilize and get close to (any given team) the best out of them. thats what hes proven a few times over. and most importantly to the usmnt conversation is that he isnt married to any one style of play, which i think is the single most important quality to that position.

    where i disagree if his standing with sociedad. yes, the copa win is huge (and a huge boost to both his resume and standing with the club), but unlike the other teams hes managed real had been top 7 for a few years prior to last. they were in a freefall. and im not saying he should have (or could have) had them back in europa spots in the time he had but the expectations are different and he only raised them. i do agree hes not leaving that for the foreseeable future, but if theyre sitting around 10-12 at the midpoint of this season its very possible it wont be his choice.

    and the dumbest part is us fans (meaning bs and us soccer media) will say he isnt good enough.
     
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  7. CoachP365

    CoachP365 Member+

    Money Grab FC
    Apr 26, 2012
    Next to a rotary dial phone with that long coily cord that gets all tangled....
     
  8. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  9. keller4president

    Jan 5, 2006
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  10. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We had one. He picked Poch.
     
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  11. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Presumably some combo of Gooch, Batson, and Helfrich.
     
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  12. Ball Chucking Hack

    Jan 21, 2005
    Raleigh, NC
    Bogert on Soccer Wise. US not hiring a new sporting director.
     
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  13. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  14. SamV12

    SamV12 New Member

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Jun 15, 2026
    I just don’t think he’s coming back if it’s taking him this long to decide. I guess we will see what happens.
     
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  15. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The World Cup isn't even over yet.
     
  16. FatRon09

    FatRon09 Member

    Arsenal
    Brazil
    Sep 14, 2023
    See Graham Potter...
     
  17. SamV12

    SamV12 New Member

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Jun 15, 2026
    The extension of his contract was offered to him a couple of weeks ago. It seems like he is still undecided. It could be a sign that maybe he is considering not coming back.
     
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  18. Rahbiefowlah

    Rahbiefowlah Member+

    Oct 22, 2001
    Las Vegas
    To me, all the crumbs and tea leaves today indicate that Poch has signed a new contract to stay on.
     
  19. Trav-Man

    Trav-Man Member

    Jun 7, 2007
    Dallas, TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is where I'm at as well. I think if he were not being retained, it would have leaked by now.
     
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  20. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah all the signs seem to be indicating a return. Which I’m supportive of also.
     
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  21. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would hope they at least promote Gooch. And if they don’t hire a sporting director a public discussion as to why and how sporting decisions will be made going forward.
     
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  22. Guinho

    Guinho Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes, bless their hearts
    Estonia
    May 27, 2001
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    I have to say I don’t understand the defensive loyalty to the corrupt douches at US Soccer. They’ve been buffoons of the highest order so I for one am not going to clutch any pearls that Marsch called them out for it
     
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  23. Guinho

    Guinho Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes, bless their hearts
    Estonia
    May 27, 2001
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  24. Guinho

    Guinho Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes, bless their hearts
    Estonia
    May 27, 2001
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    How do you figure Türkiye and Bosnia wouldn’t have made playoffs in prior rounds? They finished second in their groups. That’s been the usual standard, no?

    (for the record, UEFA qualifying is the stupidest on earth, except maybe CAF)
     
  25. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    Crocker was doing a lot of work. One has to wonder where that will go.
     

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