Rumor: Next England Manager Thread Discussion

I hope I'm wrong but I think this will end in tears.But at least Tuchel will have the balls to drop big name players.

 

I'm not even sure that Capello's language skills were the main issue. It was the fact that he was starting from zero with a lot of the player pool - both in terms of their abilities and the ingrained psychological issues - and he was still figuring out a lot of the basic stuff when he took us to the World Cup. Although I don't love the idea of us appointing Tuchel ahead of an English coach, he's much more au fait with English football in general.

 

Except we will then have constant reports it’s because of frauds and if they are feuds players agents won’t hesitate to leak that to the parts of the press who will be hostile towards him throughout his reign.
Due to the pots for the qualifying they might not be any match where on paper we would not be expected to win until the World Cup if the FA do not arrange top tier friendlies.

This feels like it could be going back the Sven and Capello eras and combining some of the worse aspects of them.

 

This will end in tears.

Bring back Southgate.

 

By the time he went to South Africa he had been the manager for two and half years. He wasn’t hired just before. He had a successful qualifying period and then everything went wrong.

 

I've seen some reports saying that he knew more than he was letting on about the FA's search and had been asked to obfuscate. No question that he's less sophisticated than Southgate at handling difficult questions, but some of the awkwardness may have come out of him trying to avoid answering repeated questions that he'd been asked to swerve.

 

If he drops say Palmer it will be suggested it’s not because of football style but because they have fallen out because it’s what happened at Bayern, Dortmund and Chelsea.

 

I know, but it was pretty remarkable how little he seemed to be aware of when he arrived and he just never seemed to catch up. The way he dealt with the John Terry captaincy issue, the constant switching of goalkeepers with no awareness of how easily they would crumble under pressure, and so on - he just didn't seem to get some of the more nuanced issues that he had thrown at him, and I think that probably speaks to the differences between the cultures he was used to and the one he'd come into.

 

Southgate was literally accused of being racist because he played Saka at left-back. There's genuinely nothing managers can do to avoid whacky criticism.

 

I don’t think he had much hope for the team’s chances in South Africa. Some managers can be too optimistic but he was the opposite. It felt like he knew things were going to be bad before they even kicked a ball in South Africa.

 

Thomas Tuchel: Charming, methodical but fiery – meet new England manager

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Former Chelsea manager feels more appreciated here than in Germany and will prioritise improving individual player, says German journalist Constantin Eckner

Thomas Tuchel is clearly a familiar name to football fans, but Berlin-based journalist Constantin Eckner reveals what the new England manager is really like…

What was Tuchel’s playing career like and how did he get into management?
He was a decently-talented defender who spent one year in Germany’s second division when he was fairly young. Before he was forced to retire due to cartilage damage in his knee in his mid-20s, he had played three years in the third division for SSV Ulm, including 18 months under head coach Ralf Rangnick. Once his playing career was over, it took him only a little while until he found a job as a youth coach at VfB Stuttgart. Even in his mid-20s, his talent for coaching and tactics shone through.

Where does he fit in among the recent group of outstanding German coaches — does he have special bonds with other managers?
Tuchel was one of the first of a new breed of coaches who could not rely on having been high-profile players, and instead had to work their way up the ranks. Just like several coaches from Germany who have made waves in recent years, Tuchel approaches football in a very methodical and conceptual way. His long-time idol was Pep Guardiola, and the two have engaged in deep conversations about tactics. Also, while coaching Augsburg’s reserve team in the mid-2000s, one of his players was Julian Nagelsmann who also had to retire prematurely. Tuchel used Nagelsmann as a scout for a little while and encouraged the current Germany manager to become a coach.

It has been said that Tuchel thinks he is rated more highly in England than in Germany. Is that fair?
Yes, it is. In part, it is because Tuchel acts somewhat differently when he is in England or interacts differently with people from England. Tuchel can come off as a tense person, but he seems much more relaxed when he speaks his second language, probably because he does not think about every single word he uses. Even when he gave press conferences as Bayern Munich manager, he tended to joke with journalists from England much more often than with those from Germany.


What is his personality? When he lost his temper with Antonio Conte on the touchline, was that a reflection of how fiery he can be?
He can be easily irritable if he feels being attacked. But on other occasions, Tuchel is the most charming and soft-spoken person you can find. If things go well or he feels comfortable, you will see his good side. But once things go south, you might see a more aggressive side of him. As for his relationship with players, he had a great connection to a lot of players at Chelsea while the same cannot be said about his most recent stint at Bayern, where he was not on good terms with everyone.


What is his family life, and will he resent the public and media scrutiny that will come with being England manager?
Tuchel has spoken about his private life and how things changed after he and his wife got divorced in 2022 following a 13-year-long marriage. He said that he is very close to his parents and enjoys just being a son when he visits them. His private life has been under the microscope for many years so it will not feel especially different as England manager, especially given the fact that he is not known for causing major scandals.


At Chelsea, he seemed to have a big impact quickly, then his methods became less successful. Should England fans worry he is a short-term manager?
His spell at Chelsea was not the first time this had happened. When he joined Borussia Dortmund as the successor of Jürgen Klopp in 2015 following a sabbatical, Tuchel impressed with his tactical ideas, but things fizzled out during the second season. What might help him in his new endeavour is a less hectic schedule, as he will have more time to analyse and draw up plans. Also, Tuchel views himself as a players’ coach, meaning someone whose job is to make players better. This could work well in the setting of international football where teams rely more on individual quality than in club football.


How will his appointment as England manager be viewed in Germany? Will it be seen as a betrayal? Do you think an English manager will ever be put in charge of Germany?
No, it will not be seen as a betrayal. The bridges to Bayern and Dortmund seem more or less burned. At the same time, the fact that Tuchel will only be the third foreigner to coach the Three Lions may be seen as another proof of the quality German managers offer. Klopp was often praised at home for what he achieved with Liverpool. If Tuchel manages to win the World Cup, many will be proud of him, unless he beats Germany, of course.

I aimgine the reception in Germany is also bit of laughter at England not having anyone suitable where as they are now five German UEFA country managers.

 

Exclusive: Thomas Tuchel will start life as England manager on January 1st 2025. He is expected to sign an 18-month deal. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 pic.twitter.com/4PLxWZPpnH

— Nathan Gissing (@NathGissing) October 15, 2024

 

Why keep carsley hanging on? Surely it makes sense for him to start now

 

Would be a bit odd but I could see them doing so.

 

Let’s hope he has leaned how to manage the subs better than he did with Bayern v Real.

 

🚨🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Thomas #Tuchel has signed a deal with the FA to become the new England manager, confirmed by @SkySports. First call: @TimesSport ✔️

Tuchel will earn between £4.5m and £5m, and is expected to be introduced at an official press conference at Wembley tomorrow at 1:30pm (BST),… pic.twitter.com/ByRRjqN79q

— Florian Plettenberg (@Plettigoal) October 15, 2024

Unveiling tomorrow - but Carsley taking the Nov games.

It isn't to avoid a confected poppy outrage, is it?
Bizarre stuff

 

The FA should hang their hands in shame. Another sad day for the England national team.

England have used more foreign managers than Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. Embarrasing.

 

Possibly just to give Tuchel more time to get settled and watch the players before he has to pick his first squad. I don't know if he's even living in England at the moment?

 

I wonder if its something to with his Bayern contract that he can't start until 2025.

 

Been out quite a while and only just got back in, so Tuchel confirmed as the new manager??? Really don’t know what to make of that if I’m honest. He falls out with people everywhere he goes even if he is a good tactical manager. My worry is all the good work Southgate has done in creating that good feel environment where players love turning out for International breaks will be undone. I really hope I’m wrong about him.

 

18 months is a bit odd for a contract length.


Maybe this is an interim appointment until Howe or Pep are available.....