Rumor: Next England Manager Thread Discussion

Thomas Tuchel in talks to become permanent England head coach. Tuchel open to the job. Story: https://t.co/Ka08TErgCR

— Sami Mokbel (@SamiMokbel81_DM) October 15, 2024

🚨🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Thomas Tuchel has opened to the possibility of becoming new England head coach already in July.

Talks are now ongoing with Tuchel who’s strong candidate to replace Lee Carsley.

He’s the clear favorite, as Man City are confident to keep FA’s dream target Pep Guardiola. pic.twitter.com/WaBVK52u5m

— Fabrizio Romano (@FabrizioRomano) October 15, 2024

Carsley might still be interim for November according to all the reports the afternoon.

 

Not sure on this. Things were going great for Carsley until he decided to field one of the worst selections and terrible gameplans in memory. Not sure the FA made him act like a sulky naughty school boy in the aftermath either.

 

One positive of this is it stops the press and social media "experts" going "why aren't you playing all the big names together?"

 

He's not particularly good in front of the camera. (Carsley that is). Can't imagine how he tries to get his view across to the players

 

It won’t. The BBC had an article after the Greece match about how Foden, Bellingham and Palmer could all play together.

 

But if anyone asks, they just go "look at the Greece game".

 

Every paper has been fed it - but why on earth would Carsley be in charge for the November games?

 

Contunity? It doesn’t make much sense but it clearly has been briefed out by someone at the FA.

 

Of course but that won’t stop the debate. Particularly under Tuchel because his playing style is not one to grab people’s attention so people will always be asking for more of the exciting players to be playing.

 

🚨🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Excl | Harry #Kane comments on the negotiations between the English FA and Thomas #Tuchel, via @Sky_Torben: 💬

"Until it's announced obviously I can't really comment, but we have to wait and see. Obviously, I know Thomas well from last year. Fantastic coach, fantastic… pic.twitter.com/0czmwsbuU9

— Florian Plettenberg (@Plettigoal) October 15, 2024

 

I'll settle for those pros. Let's not forget Tuchel had Harry Kane scoring for fun last season, as well as revitalising the career of Eric Dier, so you'd imagine he's got two willing advocates there.

It'll also be interesting to see if Tuchel swipes Anthony Barry, his English coach at Chelsea and Bayern, away from the assistant manager role with Portugal. That might just ease the doubts about his man management skills and his ability to continue Southgate's impressive work in uniting the squad.

 

Barry surely will jump with the chance to do that and the FA might even make it a requirement to ease concerns.

 

Me too Roverman.

I didn’t enjoy watching any Tuchel side.

 

I was being sarcastic by the way lol

 

Haha, to be fair I couldn’t tell

 

I'm skeptical about Tuchel from a man management perspective but at this point for a limited one tournament cycle I think he's probably worth a gamble. The side has been absolutely atrocious all year performance wise so I don't think we really lose anything by going for a gamble. I think its pretty clear something needs to change. Who knows maybe a manager with a Tuchel sized ego might be helpful in reining in what has clearly been difficulties in trying to cram in players based on reputation all year rather than working to a sensible system. The main skepticism I would have is the FA's tendency to let a bad marriage continue, or over reward. I'm fine with him for a one tournament cycle and see how it goes, but the FA usually gets over eager.

I don't particularly care about his style of football, we have good attacking players on paper but we lack the kind of profile of players to control games against good teams and our defence isn't particularly strong. I'm pretty skeptical any manager is going to get a tune out this side playing free flowing attacking football. I suspect we'd just get easily turned over by more disciplined and structured sides.

 

I wouldn’t be too surprised if he gets a four year contract going up to the partially at home Euros.

The press conferences will be like nothing seen for England before as some of the press will be hoping they can run articles suggesting he has fallen out with those big names he is not playing because of his history of doing so.

 

I would assume it would probably more depend on Tuchel who may not want to commit to a long stint in international management himself. An 18 month contract could suit all parties nicely.

 

It might suit him but might not suit the FA who won’t be too keen then have to go through all this again in two years time.

 

I remember the RFU said that Jones' replacement would be an English coach. The FA should do the same.

To be regarded as an elite coach you have to win trophies. To win trophies you have to manage the big clubs with the best players. English managers don't get to manage the big clubs so they don't get to win trophies. It's that simple really.

If you put 6 English managers in charge of the Big 6 and 14 foreign managers in charge of the other Premier League teams, the English managers would win all the trophies.

 

I wouldn't mind Potter getting it, although it seems shrouded in mystery whether he would even be interested.

Beyond him though the options available would be pretty grim, England's coaching isn't going to improve just by a top down approach. I think there's probably some truth in that its just particularly hard in England to make it to to the top as a English manager nowadays, both through reputation and rising through the leagues (hard to imagine someone being rewarded like Kompany was for example for having spent >100m to finish behind Luton). But on the other hand I think it is often clear to see English coaching is lacking, often made clear looking at how bizarrely coached a lot of England's underage sides are.

 

If he's appointed I'd like it sooner rather than later before the next round of matches. Get him bedded in before the serious games start.

 

The Football Association are ready to offer Thomas Tuchel the England job as early as this week, sources with knowledge of the situation have confirmed to TBR Football.

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— Graeme Bailey (@GraemeBailey) October 15, 2024

Could earn more than any PL manager other than Guardiola. If true that’s a big increase in what Southgate was on.

 

🔺 EXCLUSIVE: Thomas Tuchel has agreed to become the new England manager after concluding a deal with the Football Association and an unveiling is expected this week

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— Times Sport (@TimesSport) October 15, 2024

I await the You Gov poll - last time the majority said it should be English.