Rumor: Next England Manager Thread Discussion

Discussion in 'England' started by BarryfromEastenders, Oct 5, 2022.

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  1. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    We live in a strange World! The charges have nothing to do with Pep but people won’t be happy due to being associated with City.
     
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  2. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    In this same concocted theory the English Man City players were also getting ostracised from the England set up. Can we even bring the Man City tea lady into the set up? Probably not worth upsetting the social media mobs just to employ her.
     
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  3. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    They don't have to. The fans would not care, the clubs certainly would not, and the media waffle would last about as long as it did with Carsley and the anthem. Besides the charges have nothing to do with Guardiola.
     
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  4. Khan

    Khan Member+

    Mar 16, 2000
    On the road
    I just really hope the FA hire an English manager.

    All this talk of Pep supposedly having any interest in managing England is mental masturbation.
     
  5. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    I don't think it's that far-fetched. He wants to manage an international team at some point, and there aren't really many club options that he's likely to want.
     
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  6. Khan

    Khan Member+

    Mar 16, 2000
    On the road
    Sure, he'll manage an international team one day.
    Once he's tired of backhanding the EPL over and over again, and once he's, I dunno, 60-ish years old?

    But, the other part of the equation, is that he's likely to want a more complete side to manage than what 3 Lions appear to be right now. [No offense meant, but it looks as though there are more complete rosters than England right now.]

    Were I to foment a guess, it could be a Brasil, or the like. [And this is setting aside the massive wage cuts he'd have to endure to manage internationally right now.]


    IMO, the FA would be better-served to try to entice Pep to overhaul the training of coaches; we still see too much "POMO" years after Hughes has left the FA.
     
  7. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    The goalkeeper situation would worry him and might be a major hurdle in him choosing England, but beyond that I'd say we have a stronger squad than Brazil, and we're not noticeably behind anyone else in the talent department.
     
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  8. Khan

    Khan Member+

    Mar 16, 2000
    On the road
    I think that's fair.

    But I also think that Pep would like more talent in the MF as well as along the backline.

    I think England are as strong as any nation up front, to be fair.
     
  9. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Jog on you tool
     
  10. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    And why the eff would he be interested in Brazil. He has no links to them and they're a terrible team compared to previous generations. There's very few if any national teams with the talent England have
     
  11. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Maybe I was harsh with that but when people come on our forum. Especially yanks and make false claims it winds me up
     
  12. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Calling Brazil a terrible team in isn’t one of your smartest moves. I mean they have tons of talent, just not managed particularly well and they still beat us not long ago albeit a friendly game. You really need to climb down off this high horse you sometimes sit on mate.
     
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  13. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Yes, pretty harsh there. It’s not like he’s trolling or anything, just giving his opinion.
     
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  14. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Valencia, Spain
    You get the odd troll but most other fans who come on here are coming in good faith with the intention of having a regular discussion. We won't always like their opinion but it's usually not meant as a windup. It's better to just offer up a retort if you don't like what they say. Never worth snapping at people mate, it's not worth letting internet talk wind you up.
     
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  15. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    I mean compared to previous sides. They're really thin in alot of positions
     
  16. Khan

    Khan Member+

    Mar 16, 2000
    On the road
    Agreed that they're not what they've been in the past.

    OTOH, they've got fewer obvious gaps in their lineup than 3 Lions.
     
  17. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    I would probably say our gaps are goalkeeper and left back currently. I don’t think our midfield is that thin, plus we have some pretty good talent coming through in that area.
     
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  18. Khan

    Khan Member+

    Mar 16, 2000
    On the road
    I think that's fair.

    I also look at Kyle Walker, his 34 years on earth, and the many minutes he's played, and I doubt he'll be as effective once the world cup rolls around. And Alexander Arnold defends about as well as a middle aged man does.

    Up top, I also wonder if Kane will age gracefully, and if not, who succeeds him?
     
  19. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    If we were to carry on without Kane then we still have Watkins, Toney and Solanke as a start for the next 5 years or so but thinking objectively which Countries really have high quality strikers currently? I think we aren’t too bad in this department and if push comes to shove and many from the senior thread keep going on about playing Palmer, Foden, Rogers or whoever is the current flavour of the month from midfield as a false nine ( which I’m not so keen on fwiw ).

    Yeah, Kyle is coming to an end and has been a fantastic player for us and whilst I share your thoughts on Trent but think he’s improved under Slot ( well not heard much noise on social media so far this season about his defending but could be wrong ). He just also gives us something from right back that we have lacked for years under Walker, whilst great at what he does best, he can’t be an additional play maker from right back like Trent can provide. I guess in time we will see how that goes.
     
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  20. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    There's a Spanish journalist in the UK called Guillem Balague. He knows Pep quite well and has long said that England, along with Brazil, are among the nations that Pep would like to manage. Pep has also said in an interview earlier this season that he might consider an international job at the end of it. He's coming near a decade in England and is known to like living here. I still expect Carsley to be made permanent manager but I think there's a chance Guardiola will take the job but it all comes down to timing I think.
     
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  21. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Not really. They're very thin up top. Their fullbacks are pretty average. They don't have any top class midfielders
     
  22. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    There is a global shortage of top level strikers at the moment.
     
  23. Khan

    Khan Member+

    Mar 16, 2000
    On the road
    #1148 Khan, Oct 2, 2024
    Last edited: Oct 2, 2024
    Wait, you think that the two fellas from Real Madrid, plus the fella from Barcelona are "thin" up front? (Not counting their kids coming up, or even Neymar coming back; just those 3 are "thin?")


    And even if Brazil's fullbacks are "average," at least they have "average" at the position; England's aren't strong on the left, while there's either a turnstile or a grandpa at the RB.
     
  24. Khan

    Khan Member+

    Mar 16, 2000
    On the road
    Its hard to replace someone of Kane's level.

    And of those 3, one is in Saudi Arabia, while the others play for clubs that really don't compete for top prizes. (Thinking UCL, and the like.)

    So, if those 3 score or not, it doesn't much matter to their clubs, at least to the degree that it matters for a Kane, an Mbappe, or a Lewandowski.
     
  25. Khan

    Khan Member+

    Mar 16, 2000
    On the road
    Pep has said a lot of things over the years:

    Hes said he wanted to coach one of the juventil sides at Barça. He's said he's wanted to coach internationally. And he's said he wanted to run for president of Barcelona.


    At the end of the day, do we really see the FA taking on a manager and celebrity of his stature? And do we see a manager take on a project that (to be fair) isn't as auspicious and complete as others he's taken on hereto fore?
    All while taking a ~60-70% cut in wages?


    I simply don't see that happening. Perhaps in a decade, as a closer-to-retirement gig, but now?

    Nah.
     

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