Rumor: Next England Manager Thread Discussion

Discussion in 'England' started by BarryfromEastenders, Oct 5, 2022.

  1. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Feb 8, 2020
    McDermott worked with Pochettino for years and they apparently have a very good relationship, I’m sure if they wanted him they would have made a move and he would have likely accepted.
     
  2. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    I don't think we could pass up on Guardiola if he wants the job. Carsley would be his ideal assistant manager as well.
     
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  3. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Valencia, Spain
    Maybe, but I'm not sure the timeline would really work out anyway. Pep has repeatedly said for years (and reiterated again the other day) that he'll take a break before taking another job once he leaves City. The FA might feel they can convince him otherwise but the eight years he's spent at City is double the amount of time he spent at Barca and Bayern. Can obviously never say never but it feels likely that Pep won't be available until 2026 at the earliest.
     
  4. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    I didn't see the interview but the tweet earlier in the thread says that managing a national team is an option for him at the end of the season and that taking a break is another option. Is it a misleading tweet?
     
  5. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Valencia, Spain
    I've not seen the interview either but it could be. He's been fairly consistent in saying he wants a break before international football. Quotes here are from three years ago and one week ago. Who knows though, he's not exactly the most transparent man.

    - https://www.trtworld.com/sport/pep-...ster-city-when-contract-expires-in-2023-49489

    - https://m.allfootballapp.com/news/E...-he-does-not-extend-his-Man-City-deal/2878661
     
  6. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    It won’t be him. If Carsley goes bad they will try for Howe if not Potter or Tuchel.
     
  7. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Logically they will. If Carsley doesn’t have a good start or the USA out perform us in the World Cup those questions could come back to cause an issue for the FA,
     
  8. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    I mean, that's the same for any manager. If whoever england picked did badly people will blame the selection process.
     
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  9. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    What Pochettino does with another nation isn’t comparable to England anyway. This job is quite unique and not translatable to other roles.

    I think recent weeks has shown that all the speculation created about who was in pole position or a genuine top candidate has just been guesswork.
     
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  10. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
  11. TRS-T

    TRS-T Member

    Aug 21, 2014
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    Question for the people who don't mind having a foreign manager at the helm.

    Would you also be ok with having naturalised players in the team?
     
  12. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Valencia, Spain
    One, maximum two, fine. Any more than that and it kind of undermines what international football is all about. Half of the merit involved in succeeding at international level comes from developing your own players imo. If we were to win a trophy with a squad full of players developed by other countries it would take the shine off it a little bit for me.

    It's fine if you're a small country and/or have very few resources, but right now that's not us so we should be producing our own players.
     
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  13. Fireburn47

    Fireburn47 Member+

    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    Through of course there is difference between someone like Owen Hargreaves who had citizenship from birth than some of players Spain etc have had recently.

    Marc Guehi is probably a naturalised British Citizen actually baring in mind he was born in the Cote D’Ivoire.
     
  14. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Valencia, Spain
    It doesn't bother me where they were born, I'm more bothered by where they were produced. If a player was born in Jamaica or Nigeria but moved to England when they were 3 years old, that's a player produced by England.

    Equally if they were born in England but moved to Spain at 3 then that's a player produced by Spain. The merit comes from producing players, not the birth country aligning with the team name.

    I don't see any difference in merit between Owen Hargreaves and Robin Le Normand. Laporte was actually more developed by Spain than Hargreaves was by us, despite being born in France.
     
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  15. TRS-T

    TRS-T Member

    Aug 21, 2014
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    So don't you think that the same also applies to the manager?
     
  16. horrisengleton

    horrisengleton Member+

    Arsenal
    England
    Jul 18, 2023
    Valencia, Spain
    Well my preference is an English manager and I've gone as far as to say I'd rather give Carlsey and go than appoint Guardiola straight off the bat. I think we should always be trying to platform our own managers first and foremost but if none prove good enough I'm not against a foreign manager altogether in certain circumstances.

    Someone like Pochettino, for example, has spent the majority of his professional career managing in England. He's a manager that England has played a big part in producing and the country has very much shaped part of who he is today. Same as Guardiola, who by the end of this season will have spent double the amount of time managing in England than he has in his own country.

    Specific cases like that I can make a pass for, but at the end of the day it's also a player's game, and while managers are no doubt important, they're not as important as players. I think that just matters more.
     
  17. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    Sterling and Guehi are naturalised and we have many players in our youth system of similar profile.

    As for Pep he’s the greatest manager of all time. He’s been in England for a decade and has obviously grown an affinity for the country, hence why he’s interested in managing England. If it was someone like Capello again then no way. It depends on the specifics for me.

    The other thing is that people lament all the time how we always give up the ball in international football, if we want to reverse that trend and create a new culture then Pep is the bloody ideal candidate!
     
  18. TRS-T

    TRS-T Member

    Aug 21, 2014
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    They aren't naturalised, they're just foreign-born. They came here as children (they have no foreign accent.)

    A naturalised person moves country as an adult e.g. Mikel Arteta, Manuel Almunia. I remember when there was talk of them playing for England.
     
  19. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    Naturalisation is someone becoming a citizen of a country they weren’t born in. I don’t believe any of those players that came here as adults that were mooted to play for us could do because of the Home Nations agreement.
     
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  20. hussar

    hussar Member+

    Jun 24, 2015
    With all respect, let's not pretend that football was invented in 2010.
    I'm not even sure that's true for the last decade, but there are still plenty of candidates for all time.
     
  21. Fireburn47

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    Nov 5, 2021
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