Rumor: Next England Manager Thread Discussion

Discussion in 'England' started by BarryfromEastenders, Oct 5, 2022.

  1. Fireburn47

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    Nov 5, 2021
    I think he is one for the future but doesn’t seem to be mentioned at all at the moment.
     
  2. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
    England
    Nov 5, 2021
    I’m not sure they would do that as it would lead to the question as to why Carsley is not trusted enough to be hired permanently. The view for many would then be the FA are waiting for Klopp to have a longer break.
     
  3. Fireburn47

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    Nov 5, 2021

    Henry Winter seems to think the players might not react well to Potter.


    The Sun seem to be in favour of Tuchel!
     
  4. Inter Row Z

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    Mar 26, 2023
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    Having Graham Potter in charge would suggest more of the same too, bearing in mind his Brighton side notoriously struggled to score goals. We've had 12 years of seeing England managed by cautious, defence-first pragmatists now. Let's just try breaking the cycle with a coach who knows how to get the best out of an attack and doesn't simply leave them to sort it out for themselves.
     
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  5. Regis Prograis

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    Feb 8, 2020
    I'd be in favour of Carsley, like how he sets up his midfield. I think there's a very strong chance he gets the gig.
     
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  6. Marcho Gamgee

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    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
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    To be honest, I think we can probably rule out the next tournament for any European team other than maybe Spain just because it’s going to favour a South American team due to the heat and humidity in the US, Mexico and Canada. The heat is apparently very intense!
     
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  7. Fireburn47

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    Nov 5, 2021
    So did his Chelsea side.

    But then his Brighton side didn’t have the talent of the attackers he would have for England - they made chances they just were nit able to take them due to poor finishing and the chances often requiring difficult skill.

    Also his substitutions at cheslea very rarely worked.

    He struggled dealing with the ego’s at Chelsea so would have to work on stopping Ego’s retuning to the England set up.
     
  8. ColUFan

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    Colchester United
    England
    Apr 22, 2022
    I'm give you another uninformed scenario as to why they would do that.

    Whoever they appoint they are going to get blow back. There's no universal support for any English candidate and if they look to a foreign coach they'll get criticized for not appointing a manager from this country.

    If they give Carsley the job "while they decide" and England do well in their Nations League group, regardless of the fact that that's what they should do anyway, it will build some momentum behind him and it wouldn't surprise me if you even get some of the players coming out in support of his appointment.

    It's all hypothetical guess work on my behalf but I don't think it's in the realms of fantasy.
     
  9. roverman

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    Dec 22, 2001
    Carsley wouldn't be an upgrade imo. We need someone who has experience. Pocettinho or tuchel would be more my choice. Obviously pep would be the dream appointed or klopp
     
  10. Fireburn47

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    Nov 5, 2021
    Germany made the final at Mexico 1986 so it’s not impossible.
     
  11. ColUFan

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    Colchester United
    England
    Apr 22, 2022
    I'm not convinced about Carsley myself, my previous posts are just what I think could happen.

    I would say though that de la Fuente wasn't a universally popular appointment in Spain, coming from a similar background, and they looked pretty good.
     
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  12. AJ123

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    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    As Fireburn mentioned Potter's Brighton always did well in terms of xG which suggests quality coaching but player finishing letting them down. To mark him the same as Southgate as a manager is well wide of the mark. Look at his games against Liverpool in 2021 where Brighton took 4 points oer the two games. Brighton went toe to toe with Liverpool and played some great football, his Brighton team often did. Hard to see Southgate ever doing that.

    I think judging him on his stint at Chelsea is misleading. Fireburn displays quite a lazy appraisal of his time there by completely omitting the fact that Boehly had been on a mad spending spree and they had so many first team players that they all couldn't fit in the changing room! It was a crazy situation not seen before in the PL and obviously extemely hard to manage.

    If you look at his career so far he's nothing like Steve McLaren, one of Fireburn's comparisons. What he achieved in Sweden and with Brighton was highly impressive by building a career bottom up and massively overachieving. For me he's the standout English candidate.
     
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  13. Fireburn47

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    Nov 5, 2021
    The issue will be why can’t the FA decide and who are they waiting for.
     
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  15. Fireburn47

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    Nov 5, 2021
    Actually he took 1 point from the Liverpool side of 2021/2022. He beat them in 2020/2021 which was weaker Liverpool side.

    I’ve seen Potter summed up as the Manager who wins matches you don’t expect but loses games you expect to win because if it’s not working it’s not working that match,

    And also I’ve seen it said that the reason for lack of goals was also that those XG’s were often very difficult chances.

    The pressure at Chelsea got to him a lot. Lots of snapping at the media. Could do the same for England.
     
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  16. ColUFan

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    Colchester United
    England
    Apr 22, 2022
    It won't be so much a case of them not deciding, it will be a case of the Nations League games start relatively shortly and the appointment process takes time. Carsley then has the opportunity to showcase himself.
     
  17. Fireburn47

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    Nov 5, 2021
    The FA has said for months it has a plan. So it can’t then say it doesn’t and needs a temporary one.
     
  18. Fireburn47

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    Nov 5, 2021
    The likes of Mark Goldbridge celebrating when there is a good chance they will be just as unhappy with his successor.
     
  19. Regis Prograis

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    Feb 8, 2020
    What has the FA said on record to this effect?

    Anyone who pays any attention to this cretin is almost as stupid as the man himself
     
  20. Fireburn47

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    Nov 5, 2021
    Bullingham said like all organisations they have a succession plan.
     
  21. Fireburn47

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    Nov 5, 2021


    I can see him back in 2028 or 2030.

    As I have said it’s Potter we not making 2026 and I have even put a bet on that.
     
  22. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
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    Can I have this weeks lottery numbers too? :p
     
  23. Regis Prograis

    Regis Prograis Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Feb 8, 2020
    That doesn't answer my question, but I'm sure your well aware of that

    Hopefully not to much, your track record with predictions is pretty awful!
     
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  24. roverman

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    Dec 22, 2001
    Sad but the right decision. Thanks for everything Gareth but time to move on
     
  25. Fireburn47

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    West Ham United
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    Nov 5, 2021

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