Next Coach

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by nbarbour, Dec 3, 2022.

  1. FanOfFutbol

    FanOfFutbol Member+

    The Mickey Mouse Club or The breakfast Club
    May 4, 2002
    Limbo
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Might be a good deal easier than trying to get Gregg to actually find a way to get the best players on the field at the same time or to say something meaningful and coherent. He uses the word "we" a lot but he says it in such a way as to show that he really means "I."
    His whole coaching tenure was all about him and not about the players or the team or even USA soccer.
    I think his next job should be at a good European club with NO USA players. That way his poisonous attitudes and perceptions will have little impact on how the USA does in the future.
     
  2. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    As opposed to the brother/BFF/etc. of the new coach?
     
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  3. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And yet there's never actually been any evidence was involved in the process.

    Everyone wants to blame Jay Berhalter for some reason and no one ever wants to give Earnie Stewart any agency in the decision. As if he'd leave his job as the sporting director for an MLS team to go to one where he would be forced to hire who they tell him to.

    There's never been any evidence that the Berhalter hire was driven by anyone but Earnie Stewart, and Stewart continues to be very supportive of Berhalter to this day.
     
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  4. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    I'm pretty sure Stewart joined the fed after Berhalter was already the unofficial coach-in-waiting.
     
  5. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There's never been any evidence that Berhalter was ever the coach in waiting. For most of the period of the vacancy itself, Sunil Gulati was the president of USSF and they were waiting for the next election for a new person to come in and hire the coach. An election in which the Athletes Council was the decisive vote.

    I understand that alot of people don't like that Gregg Berhalter was hired as coach of the USMNT. But one can just say they think Earnie Stewart made a poor decision as opposed to coming up with conspiracy theories than no one has ever been able to verify.
     
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  6. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
    Earnie was hired 6 months prior to Berhalter being named coach.
     
  7. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    Everyone knew the fed was waiting on Berhalter to finish up his season with Columbus.
     
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  8. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Better than Jay.
     
  9. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Just a pure coincidence. Jay hires Stuart, Stuart hires Gregg.
     
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  10. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    I mean, we were debating his hire as the sure thing it was for at least a year before it was official, were we not?
     
  11. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Everyone knew that Gregg will be a coach many months before official announcement.
     
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  12. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Jay Berhalter did not hire Earnie Stewart either.

    He was the chief commercial officer of the federation? Why does everyone think he was secretly running things behind the scenes or that he was the only one empowered to do anything? Again it completely removes the agency of anyone else who was employed by USSF.
     
  13. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    He was running USSF.
     
  14. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And everyone else in the federation, including the people he was reporting too, just stood aside and let it happen? And none of these people ever leaked that it was happening?
     
  15. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Yes.
     
  16. KALM

    KALM Member+

    Oct 6, 2006
    Boston/Providence
    I sort of remember him being talked about as a prime candidate for a long time before he was hired, but I feel like I don't remember it being viewed as a sure thing until after Earnie became GM.

    I might be wrong though. That whole process was very unclear.
     
  17. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Part of that is to protect any coaches approached that don't want to be publicly named. Anyone think Mexico might have a harder time getting any foreign coach interested if the Bielsa story is true?
     
  18. MPNumber9

    MPNumber9 Member+

    Oct 10, 2010
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Jamokes already believe that.
     
  19. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
    DE
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Earned Stewart off to PSV
     
  20. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    Oof.

    I know some people will be happy, but I am not. I do not look forward to who we get in that role.
     
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  21. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I imagine this is not a case of him being pushed out and more of a case of him wanting to move to PSV. But hopefully we’ll get some reporting that.

    And being sporting director of PSV is definitely a good job.

    This is where you wonder about the McBride stuff and whether there was any consideration in terms of him staying on to take Stewart’s role. Cause he obviously would have been a natural replacement otherwise.

    Can’t imagine this doesn’t set back the coach search a bit though.
     
  22. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
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  23. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
    DE
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good job opportunity for Stewart.
     
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  24. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  25. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Farther down the thread we see "Cindy Parlow Cone says USSF would like a USMNT GM and head coach in place by end of the summer."
     

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