Next Coach 2.0 (2024-26)

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by Eleven Bravo, Jul 12, 2024.

  1. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sounds reasonable to me. Certainly the league is different than when Moyes took Everton from a bottom 3rd squad to a consistent just outside the top 3rd squad over the 10+ years he had them.

    Everton again is a bottom 3rd EPL squad.
     
  2. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And where did they typically finish under Moyes? He consistently finished higher than that.

    Ancelotti also came to Everton at a time they were spending like crazy (far beyond their means it turns out and part of why they’ve fallen off so hard).
     
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  3. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They’ve fallen so hard since he’s left because they’ve had to seriously restrict their spending and sell off a number of their good players. The club is basically broke and it’s not crazy they could be put into administration if they can’t find a buyer.

    The Everton of the last three years is not comparable to when Moyes was in charge or during Ancelotti’a time.
     
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  4. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Disagree, but it's a new era. We'll see.
     
  5. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Relevant to the Pochettino discussion.



    And this list isn’t exactly how I’d rank things either.
     
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  6. shooter6065

    shooter6065 Member

    Nov 16, 2000
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Hi guys, the way this coaching search is going I have decided to start accumulating Gregg Berhalter stock as it is obvious nobody wants this job other than him and Dolo. Let's give it a 3rd go around with the same tactics, same players and same coach! Go USA!
     
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  7. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    Crocker has super-secret knowledge that Americans don't have. He will choose the best choice and none of us will understand why that is, even after we lose in the first elimination round. But thankfully there will be people here who will try, futilely, to explain it to us. But will we listen? No.
     
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  8. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    The meltdown by Lalas on national television will be epic.
     
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  9. porkrind

    porkrind Member+

    Quakes
    United States
    Sep 27, 2001
    Bostonia
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    lol... please
     
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  10. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    Pochettino is a good coach which makes me wonder why he gets dismissed.

    With the USMNT I'd worry that Pochettino will just put a badge team together because it keeps his prospects in Europe intact. When he goes out he'll say his players weren't good enough, thanks for the cash.
     
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  11. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Other than the precious few, they all get dismissed though. Getting fired is part of the deal.
    Poch would be an incredible signing for the USMNT. I have no idea how the results on the field would go, but it would be a really high profile signing by the USSF with the home world cup approaching.

    Tuchel is a good coach. Bielsa is a good coach. Don't seem to stay in jobs very long.

    Unlike those two, I've never heard any issue about Pochettino being a headcase.

    Unai Emery. Fired by Spartak Moscow. Left Sevilla amicably with time left on his deal. Fired by PSG. Fired by Arsenal. The list goes on. Now he's doing well at Villa. If their season doesn't go as planned................watch the hatchets appear.

    Just the way it goes. One of the Chelsea co-owners wasn't happy, so there you go.
    Mauricio Pochettino leaves Chelsea after 1 season in charge - ESPN

    Sources told ESPN that there has been a split for some time within the Chelsea hierarchy over whether to persist with Pochettino after a disappointing campaign in which they were languishing in midtable despite spending £1 billion ($1.27 billion) on new players since the Boehly-Clearlake Capital takeover of May 2022.

    Sources told ESPN that Boehly was keen on retaining Pochettino but Eghbali wanted to replace him with a new coach.
     
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  12. Rahbiefowlah

    Rahbiefowlah Member+

    Oct 22, 2001
    Las Vegas
    This was a fun thread until people started questioning whether Pochettino is good enough for the USMNT job. I can’t take it seriously anymore.
     
  13. RefIADad

    RefIADad Member+

    United States
    Aug 18, 2017
    Des Moines, IA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Admittedly, there are a few questions about how Pochettino would transition to international management. But I’m definitely on board with seeing how those questions would be answered.
     
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  14. Rahbiefowlah

    Rahbiefowlah Member+

    Oct 22, 2001
    Las Vegas
    Do we want Southgate? How would Cherundolo transition to international management?

    Related questions…Are we Brazil? Are we Real Madrid?
     
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  15. RefIADad

    RefIADad Member+

    United States
    Aug 18, 2017
    Des Moines, IA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My comment was very much tongue in cheek-I’d absolutely take Pochettino in a half-second.

    There would be questions of any incoming USMNT coach-including Klopp or Pep. Whether it’s transitioning to the international game, dealing with a less-talented team, adjusting preferred tactics, EVERY coach would have questions.
     
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  16. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    "Mauricio, que los americanos quieren que les manejes el equipo, que te pagan bien."
    "Dejame en paz Karina, que quiero descansar."
    "Pero te la pasas mirando tele y durmiendo siestas, te aburres..."
    "I like London, good vibes. I'll just wait for the call. Besides, the Yanks won't let me take el pibe with me."
    "Seba ya tiene 30 Gordo, he's no pibe, you can't be taking him around as your assistant forever!"
    "Y Mau? We'd be far from him over there, he has a career in Spain."
    "That's a pastime not a career. He barely plays in the third division."
    "Lo voy a pensar, estamos?"
    "Don't think about it too long. They're going to find someone before Navidad, Gordo."
    "I'm sure I'll get the call before that. And we stay in London."
     
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  17. theboogeyman

    theboogeyman Member+

    Jun 21, 2010
    My growing fear is that Crocker feels pressure to placate the moron fans and make himself look good by hiring a mediocre foreign coach and passes on Cherundolo.
     
  18. Rahbiefowlah

    Rahbiefowlah Member+

    Oct 22, 2001
    Las Vegas
    Which mediocre foreign coach would be an example of a mistaken hire passing over Cherundolo, in your opinion?
     
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  19. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That would not be Pochettino however.

    And if we’re looking domestically we should probably start with Nancy.
     
  20. sandcastle

    sandcastle Member

    NASL Cosmos
    United States
    May 26, 2020
    McBride makes some very insightful points regarding the relationship between NT coaches, the players, and their club coaches. It's easy to see how these relationships can become counterproductive. Too many cooks in the kitchen with a young, developing, and impressionable team may not have a recipe for success.

    starts at 14:56

     
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  21. theboogeyman

    theboogeyman Member+

    Jun 21, 2010
    Vieira
     
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  22. theboogeyman

    theboogeyman Member+

    Jun 21, 2010
    I agree on both. I said from the beginning that I’d be fine with Cherundolo or Nancy and that hasn’t changed. Pochettino would be a really good hire, but I’m not going to give it much thought until he’s officially announced as the hire.

    My concern stems from how long the process is taking, and how Crocker seems to be so focused on hiring someone who currently resides in Europe.
     
  23. Crewmudgeon

    Crewmudgeon Member+

    Sep 3, 1999
    Crewdom
    Maintain a rigid state of flexibility.
     
  24. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think it just takes time. Look at England who lost Southgate not that much after we hired Berhalter and who still doesn’t have a permanent coach.

    My expectation is they’ll hire someone sometime this month even if not in time for them to take charge in September. If it’s Pochettino that’s great, if someone else I’ll judge that once they’re announced. And also if you look at the USWNT coach search he conducted, Hayes name kind of came out of nowhere late in the process after there was a top three of candidates the media was reporting.
     
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