Next Coach 2.0 (2024-26)

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by Eleven Bravo, Jul 12, 2024.

  1. RefIADad

    RefIADad Member+

    United States
    Aug 18, 2017
    Des Moines, IA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes-college baseball situation

    https://www.si.com/college/tamu/new...cision-to-leave-texas-a-m-aggies-01j1j9q80c8w

    I basically don’t believe anything I hear regarding coaching matters unless given a very good reason to change my mind.
     
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  2. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Depends on the culture and any agreements. For example, Julen Lopetegui, the coach of Spain at the time, got fired just before the '18 World Cup after the announcement he would take over the Real Madrid job.
     
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  3. KALM

    KALM Member+

    Oct 6, 2006
    Boston/Providence
    I think most people would be very happy with Poch. But if we don't ultimately succeed in hiring him, I just hope we don't let other good options slip away while we're holding out for him.
     
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  4. HScoach13

    HScoach13 Member+

    Nov 30, 2016
    Club:
    Atlanta
  5. HScoach13

    HScoach13 Member+

    Nov 30, 2016
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Coaches say this type of stuff all the time.
     
  6. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For the most part other than Matarazzo and some MLS options I think we’re mostly talking to coaches without jobs without lots of other options. Many of the candidates would probably take the England job over the US but England seems like they are going to name an interim and wait.

    On Pochettino if we’ve identified him as our top option and we’re having discussions about that should happen fairly quickly either way. I’ve said this before but Argentinian managers also seem to be more broadly willing to manage national teams that aren’t their own (and made up almost half of the Copa America mangers). Pochettino is different in that he has lots of European experience but just something I’ve thought about.
     
  7. Rahbiefowlah

    Rahbiefowlah Member+

    Oct 22, 2001
    Las Vegas
    Man if we get Pochettino that is a grand slam.
     
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  8. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


     
  9. largegarlic

    largegarlic Member+

    Jul 2, 2007
    It seems kind of weird that reporting on Pochettino being a top candidate is coming out right now. After Klopp turned them down, I would think that Pochettino would be right in the next tier of big name coaches without jobs you'd talk to before getting to Matarazzo, Cherundolo, Vieira, Nancy, etc. Maybe Pochettino realized he isn't getting the England job and is now more open to the US.
     
  10. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I imagine that it being likely England won’t hire a coach for a bit has made him more likely to entertain discussions.
     
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  11. KALM

    KALM Member+

    Oct 6, 2006
    Boston/Providence
    There were actually multiple reports early on that the US was interested in and had inquired about Pochettino. They came from the Argentinian and English press, rather than US reporters. But US insiders have also been very tight lipped (or just simply in the dark) about the candidates, for the most part, until now.
     
  12. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In the Wheel of Time series the Aes Sedai go through a process where the cannot lie. However the truth they tell you may not be what you actually hear. Meaning if a coach was incapable of lying they would take that question and convince themself that you mean at this very second knowing it's not until tomorrow. Voila no lie!
     
  13. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  14. RefIADad

    RefIADad Member+

    United States
    Aug 18, 2017
    Des Moines, IA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I’m actually surprised that Pochettino could have this level of interest in an international job. You’d have to think he’s the top choice for most big clubs if they sack a coach early in the season (cough, Man United, cough).

    If this is true, my reading of the tea leaves is Poch didn’t want to wait for a club job, and he’s learned England is “Pep or bust”. I could be wrong, but it sure seems like England is ready to move heaven and earth to get Pep if he’s done at City after this season.
     
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  15. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #1590 EruditeHobo, Aug 8, 2024
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    Pochettino is basically the best case scenario -- considering his tactics, he'd be better than Pep, better than Klopp IMO, for this role.

    I can't imagine he'd take this job when there's something like England available and the sword of damocles hanging over Ten Hag at United. That said, hopefully they just pitch him on the 2 year project so we can really see the impact of the top tier coach.

    Personally... I'd really love to see the excuses and bullshit here when the US still doesn't make a semifinal run in 2026.
     
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  16. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Seems right on England. Man U has also on multiple occasions come close to hiring him and backed off so he may feel burned by them.

    Amongst the rest of the big 6 he just left Chelsea, he’d never go to Arsenal (and Arteta isn’t going anywhere), he’s not going back to Tottenham, Pep is sticking around for this season at least at City, and Liverpool just hired a new coach who will get some time.

    He also will never go to Barcelona because of his time in Espanyol and if/when Madrid moves on from Ancelotti Xabi Alonso is going to be their first call.

    He may just seem the landscape of big jobs as nothing likely to come to fruition soon so no harm in managing internationally for two years and see how things shake out.
     
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  17. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    has anyone started the "who should varas call into jan camp?" thread yet?
     
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  18. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Semifinal? Really?

    I just want another QF run like in 2002. Semifinal is a bridge too far.
     
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  19. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #1594 EruditeHobo, Aug 8, 2024
    Last edited: Aug 8, 2024
    Semis are the new quarters, considering the modern changes in the tournament.

    Guarantee you beating a beatable team and getting to the quarters will not be good enough for many people here -- a number of them still bring up "not progressing in 2022", despite US losing to the Netherlands, a greatly superior team.

    Sections of BS don't tend to deal well with context in general.
     
  20. ChambersWI

    ChambersWI Member+

    Nov 10, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Per Doug McIntyre so far the US has met with Pooch, Matterazo, Viera, and Southgate since the position opened... and Klopp
     
  21. RefIADad

    RefIADad Member+

    United States
    Aug 18, 2017
    Des Moines, IA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Does a 60-second phone call with “thanks but no thanks, not interested” REALLY count as a meeting?
     
  22. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Meanwhile still some England chatter though they are expected to name their U21 coach as interim for the time being

     
  23. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The way it’s phrased in the article is” initial conversations with either directly or through intermediaries.”
     
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  24. 6 ft. Leprechaun

    Dec 9, 2003
    Baltimore, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Considering the gaps we have in the team, a run to the QF would be a success, imo.
     
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  25. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Interestingly he also said we were hoping to finalize things with Matarazzo this week but he decided to stay with Hoffenheim.

    Not sure why you wouldn’t offer the job to Pochettino first (and I like Matarazzo).
     
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