It is a bit uncanny how much the vibes are reminiscent of the, "Well, Zidane said no, so we'll just go for our MLS retread Berhalter...". I'll hold off on condemning them though, for now and ftr, I do like Dolo better than I liked Berhalter in '18 or '23. But yeah, there's something totally and utterly fraudulent at being ambitious for one totally ungetable guy, and then lowering your standards to this scale. Like having your back up school to Harvard, Stanford, MIT and Cal Tech be DeVry Institute and the University of Phoenix.
Wel, if we cannot get Bielsa/Gallardo/Almeyda, what about Sampaoli? He has had a mostly successful career as a club coach in multiple leagues and had Chile, without top 5 talent, playing like a top 5 team, for a few years. Do we have the personnel to play like Chile's Golden Generation (a golden generation that actually won stuff)?
if he, or anybody else, has a "style" that they want to play then we should not even consider them. What we need is a manager/coach that can look at what is available and devise a SIMPLE system they can play that requires little practice. We should not hire anyone that says anything like "I have a system that these guys will excel in." We want any system to be designed to fit the players not one that requires players learn a new system and, if there are not enough player to fit that system we just find one or two or three or four or more players to fill in even if the players found are much weaker overall that the ones w have. “Choose the best player for every position, and you’ll end up not with a strong XI, but with 11 strong 1’s.” – Johan Cruyff “A lot of football success is in the mind. You must believe you are the best and then make sure that you are.” – Bill Shankly And we need a true leader from our ranks. We currently have zero real leaders. “Players that aren’t true leaders but try to be, always bash other players after a mistake. True leaders on the pitch already assume others will make mistakes.” – Johan Cruyff “You must respect people and work hard to be in shape. And I used to train very hard. When the others players went to the beach after training, I was there kicking the ball.” – Pelé And we need to find at least a few truly great players. “Good players practice until they get it right. But great players practice until they never get it wrong”
It's probably not coincidence that you're hearing one big name again. The common thread is hopefully that the federation isn't leaking all the longshots they're approaching. Why would they? Nobody reasonable is going to turn down overtures because they were second choice to Jürgen Klopp. But it could really limit the talent pool to make someone feel they're 30th choice to Klopp, Pep, Ancelotti, Arteta, Deschamps, Pochettino, Nagelsmann, Rangnick, Scaloni, Bielsa, Regragui, Emery, Matarazzo, Lopetegui, Míchel, Eddie Howe, and a couple dozen others. Also note that Zidane then and Klopp now were in a position where leaking the overture couldn't hurt them, even if they had expressed interest. If the federation leaks all the names of sitting coaches they've talked to, it's going to look very unprofessional and get a lot of doorslams. What about telling your friends "I couldn't get into Harvard so I went to Swarthmore," instead of "I couldn't get into Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Princeton, Penn, Cornell, Dartmouth, Brown, Columbia, Michigan, Berkeley, Duke, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, or Emory, so I went to Swarthmore." The latter might be the whole truth, but telling them the former gets the point across.
There had been no reports of USSF seriously sounding out a Michigan St. level candidates before '22. Yep. In '18, there was talk about Pep. Then Gregg was hired. In '22, Zidane's name was bandied about. Then Gregg was rehired. Now, we're hearing about Klopp.
Remember, though, Renard qualified Morocco for 2018, for the first time in decades. And also qualified Saudi Arabia easily for 2022. Those are pretty impressive achievements given the many different types of opponents and playing styles faced. And if you look at the individual games that led to the group results and circumstances for his teams in 2018 and 2022, they had some tough breaks/bad luck. But the best thing about Renard is that he really pushes his players. Like the opposite of Berhalter, and more like Herb Brooks (1980 USA Olympic hockey team). Look at that halftime speech in the Saudi Arabia match in Qatar, when they were down 1-0 (due to the first of several bogus penalties for Argentina).
Joachim Löw, is the only answer. Nobody out there, touch him. He should’ve been hired yesterday. Get this done as soon as possible.
Yep - Also, amongst the charlie brown's teacher blathering I was trying to tune out of Lalas in the US match halftime shows... Carli Lloyd made some interesting comments about the team's comfortability with Gregg and the fact that they need a harder-nosed coach that holds them all (the players) more accountable... She even went so far as to say she "hated" a number of the USWNT coaches, but they got her play her best and made her accountable... and that the men's team needs that. It was a surprising comment from her (saying she hated the women's team coaches publicly) but also acknowledging she needed the tough love, so to speak, to play her best and take ownership in the team...
im not saying that but when its the two guys that have inside access to us soccer...its different and is more then anyone putting together a list of 20 candidates.
I don’t think Cherundolo would be a bad choice. His resume is much better than Gregg’s was when he got hired. BUT, I think we need a Guus Hiddink type at this point in the cycle. I don’t think we have the time for Cherundolo to get over the learning curve.
While what you say is true, Gregg's hire was obviously wrong from the day he was even interviewed. He was unqualified then and he remains unqualified to the day he was fired. As far as a "Learning curve", goes: I think that learning most everything that is needful to know should take any coach about three weeks or less to learn everything needed to coach his new team. It may take a bit longer for him to actually design a system around the players that they all can easily play and that accounts for things like key injuries and ejections. The fine tuning is an ongoing duty. We still do not know if it is Cherundolo that will be chosen but i have good confidence that he will be OK, if chosen, and that for the next few years plenty savvy enough to keep things on an even keel and improve the USMNT. I do not think it is reasonable to much question what a given candidate might or might not do. Until he actually puts the USMNT on the field and does or does not adapt to conditions, events and injuries. Every national team needs a "system" but a system that is designed to fit the players and not a preconceived one. Cherundolo, if hired, should be OK but we need to hope he does not prove to have excessive rigidity and can change and adapt quickly. When the USSF finally gets off their duff and hires somebody then we will know, maybe, how he should play. But we know nothing 'till then and we cannot expect wild speculations to have any real meaning as to where he feels each player should be played and how he wants the to play. I do NOT think delaying the new hire much beyond next week is good as we need the new coach to get to know the players. I do NOT mean getting to know them as in having tea with them but getting to know them as in watching a LOT of recordings of the various players so he gets a feel of what needs to be done. I have watched very little of Cherundolo's coaching but what I have seen is some good adjustments and a real lack of the stogy soccer that the USSF seems to love. I hope it is Cherundolo as he does seem to be willing to play whatever style suits his players.
I would imagine that for two years or more Dolo has been watching the team and probably said to himself how he would play if he was the coach, what formation and tactics best suit the team etc. I can't imagine otherwise.
i hope renard has a killer translator, cause his two days of market saturation analysis presentations and synergistic results-driven collaboration might get a little tricky otherwise. maybe thats what klopp really wanted a break from?
That looks like a memo that Don Garber had someone write and send out to the media. Jeez. Apparently, USSF will never learn from its mistakes.
"I hope the American fans hear this... those guys REALLY care."Former #USMNT assistant manager Anthony Hudson tells the US fans about the squad of players they have and the type of man needed to become their new coach.#beINSPORTS pic.twitter.com/FsgZxT6nX1— beIN SPORTS (@beINSPORTS_EN) July 11, 2024 This was interesting from Hudson.
The question would be how long it would take in the club to international transition. It may not be hard for Cherundolo at all, or he may struggle.
It's great to hear his assessment of the players' desire, and I don't know why he'd make that up. Their performances have not always reflected that, so hopefully those two come together. Hudson, is of course, right about the gap in perception of the players. A lot of the differentiation of these clubs is in the star or key players; to be a reserve or a young player holding their own is simply not as impressive as the US fan thinks. Also agree with need someone aggressive and on the front foot.
French women’s national team manager Hervé Renard has emerged as the latest candidate to become the USMNT’s new head coach. He most recently led Saudi Arabia in the 2022 World Cup, obtaining a historic turnaround win against eventual champions Argentina.
I think Dolo might be fine and would've been great (w/this level of experience) circa '18, but right here, right now in '24, Dolo isn't going to get a fair shake from the fans or the players, he'll just have to be insanely good to shut people up, like Arena in '98-'99, but w/o the troubles of the summer of '20. I think it seems clear they need a special coach, w/a proven international pedigree, and Dolo isn't that, but in fairness to the guy, I think Dolo is probably the best option we've considered domestically since Arena 26 years ago.