Next Coach 2.0 (2024-26)

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by Eleven Bravo, Jul 12, 2024.

  1. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Hurzeler was born to non-American parents and raised in Germany. He is in his first big job and is 31. His situation is not similar to Matarazzo's. In any event, I don't know these guys and their priorities. Who knows what the decisions will be once a dump truck filled with money backs into the front yard.
     
  2. ifsteve

    ifsteve Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Jul 7, 2013
    MS and ID
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No apples and oranges IMO. Rehiring Berhalter for continuing the process made some sense. That didn't pan out to more improved performance.
     
  3. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    It's similar in that both are just into a Top 4 coaching job at relatively or very young ages, and you simply don't walk from those.
     
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  4. Maximum Optimal

    Maximum Optimal Member+

    Jul 10, 2001
    That's the South. Not the entire country.
     
  5. run_it_out

    run_it_out Member+

    Earthquakes
    United States
    Jun 19, 2018
    What's Neil Warnock up to these days?
     
  6. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    I'm looking a little closer at Renard and I'm not that impressed. After beating Argentina it was really bad. Besides losing the rest of their group games they lost three times at the Gulf Cup and then were beaten at home friendlies by Venezuela and Bolivia (!?!?!?) That is all kinds of bad. Bolivia has two away wins in the last two years. Andorra and Saudi Arabia.

    His time with Morocco would be considered decent since they had not qualified in 20 years but in retrospect the squad was obviously talented enough.

    His big claim to fame are the two AFCON trophies but those are from over a decade ago.
     
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  7. keller4president

    Jan 5, 2006
    Let me throw some new names out there:

    Claudio Ranieri - Led Leicester City to Premier League title in 2015 - greatest coaching achievement ever.

    Rafa Benitez - He's available!

    Greg Vanney - Won MLS Cup in Toronto, decent coach with international playing experience.

    Pablo Mastroeni - I like his fire and enthusiasm. Good motivator. Great player.
     
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  8. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Herve Renard: Preferred formation: (whatever he feels like):

    Pros: Won AFCON with a pure minnow, Zambia. He won it again, but this time, with a talented Ivory Coast side. With Morocco, the team qualified for the first time since 1998. With Saudi in '22, the team qualified for the WC for first time since '06. In Group Stages, they defeated Messi's Argentina. The last time the US defeated an elo top-5 team in a World Cup was 1950.

    Cons: Never coached internationally in Europe or the Americas
     
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  9. manfromgallifrey91

    Swansea City
    United States
    Jul 24, 2015
    Wyoming, USA
    Club:
    Southampton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Possibly, I think Southampton had a great academy because they drilled an attacking mindset that started with an aggressive defending. So if Crocker is part of that process I can see a lesser Barca/Pep possession and more of a Gasperini style of quick attacks from defense.

    As to why Sergio, I love the way he manages. As for why he'd want the job, AVB took over Porto Pres and he bowed out. He wants to get a big 5 job, all those are filled. He will be waiting for at least 6 months for a job. Taking a short term 2 year NT job with a lot of visibility seeing as it's a home WC would grant him a lot of exposure. Make a quarters run or deeper and those jobs come up a lot quicker. I dont know that he'd be interested at all, but if I'm Crocker there's no doubt I call him before I do Dolo (who I believe will need a 4 year cycle to be successful, but would be successful eventually).
     
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  10. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Cons: Lost six games in a row after Argentina including three straight losses in Gulf Cup group phase followed by two friendly home defeats to Venezuela and Bolivia. Yes, that Bolivia.
     
  11. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Rafa is an interesting name that was once associated with the job.
     
  12. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Just sacked by Celta. He really liked Luca de la Torre:

     
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  13. Rahbiefowlah

    Rahbiefowlah Member+

    Oct 22, 2001
    Las Vegas
    We think Gregg restricted attacking movements and patterns…
     
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  14. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This your post I responded to: "I see Dolo as no different than GGG. A replacement level coach. He'd do fine and I'd expect results very similar to what we had under GGG. That is NOT what I want to see heading to WC 2026".

    I'm not sure that Dolo and GB have any coaching similarities.
     
  15. Master O

    Master O Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  16. Maximum Optimal

    Maximum Optimal Member+

    Jul 10, 2001
    Celta reminded me a lot of the USMNT in how it attacked. Not in a good way. Very ponderous.
     
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  17. Rahbiefowlah

    Rahbiefowlah Member+

    Oct 22, 2001
    Las Vegas
    Yea. I’m a lifelong Liverpool fan. We won games with him, hell we won the Champions League. But Rafa Benitez is the definition of tactically restricting. Plus he’s a dinosaur. Not a good fit for the international game.
     
  18. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Maybe, however he fits the two criteria. A known winner (especially knockouts) and has development chops (Xabi, Torres, Luis Garcia).
     
  19. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Have you seen what the winning teams in the international game are doing? It's very defensive. Even Spain go in to a defensive shell the moment they are up in the score.
     
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  20. Rahbiefowlah

    Rahbiefowlah Member+

    Oct 22, 2001
    Las Vegas
    Yes and I would much prefer Southgate to Benitez.

    Did you watch every game Liverpool played in the late 2000s?
     
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  21. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Only the knockout rounds of the CL. Which is exactly what the international game is about especially if you don't have qualifiers.
     
  22. keller4president

    Jan 5, 2006
    More out of the box names:

    Laurent Blanc - Won Ligue 1 several times. Coached France.

    Rudi Garcia - Europa league runner-up in 2017-18.

    Massimiliano Allegri - Just left Juventus. Knows McKennie and Weah.

    Roberto Mancini - Coaching Saudi Arabia, but they want Herve now?

    Niko Kovač - Has coached Bayern Munich and Croatia. Available.

    Diego Simeone - Has coached at Atletico Madrid for 14 years. Not sure if he would leave.
     
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  23. Rahbiefowlah

    Rahbiefowlah Member+

    Oct 22, 2001
    Las Vegas
    Yea. I mean we should have just kept Gregg.
     
  24. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    The biggest problem of US coaches is that we don't do well at knockout rounds. We get exposed every damn CCL. That's my biggest worry with Chero. He's a great team builder but knockouts are not always his thing.
     
  25. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    I don't remember giving anyone permission to use my likeness ... to represent the fanbase. :(
     

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