Next Coach 2.0 (2024-26)

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by Eleven Bravo, Jul 12, 2024.

  1. Yowza

    Yowza Member+

    DC United
    United States
    Oct 23, 2019
    Arlington
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ‘We also have information on players that also have the possibility to be in the National team’.
     
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  2. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Member+

    Feb 11, 2002
    Jupiter, Fl.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Perhaps this, although it can just as easily refer to guys who haven't been called up yet…

    "We also have information on players that also have the possibility to be in the national team. We come with that premise, to be open to any talent. Whether they play in Europe, play in MLS, or play anywhere else in the world."
     
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  3. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    Somewhere I missed that. Yeah, pretty clear.
     
  4. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "Dual nats" is general a misnoma. "Overseas raised nationals" might be more appropriate.

    Ii usually refers to players that were born and raised outside the US, or were born in the US and moved overseas at a very young age. In other words they grew up playing soccer abroad and most switched to the US as a teenager or adult.

    As opposed to players raised in the US who happen to be entitled to other citizenships through their parents or grandparents.

    So John Brooks, Cameron Carter-Vickers and Folarin Balogun are in this context "dual nats" while Christian Pulisic and Gio Reyna are not, even though they are.

    Another but more unfortunate term for a subset could be "passport bros", in other words they acquired a USA passport in order to play for the USA.
     
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  5. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just as the food and "world class" discussions peter out... Klinsmann is back!



     
  6. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    Shock Klinsmann return if Poch doesn’t deliver a trophy in 2025. :eek:
     
  7. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I thought this was notable from the Crew’s visit to the White House and speaks to the fact Nancy might actually be interested in the USMNT job in the future.

    https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5799764/2024/09/27/columbus-crew-white-house-biden-nancy/

    “To be honest, I was emotional,” Nancy told The Athletic. “I was emotional when Issa told me I had to make the speech… I was emotional because I’m really proud of being in Columbus, living in America. To coach here, to give my kids the education and see something different.

    “And to be here (at the White House) — we are talking about the first Black MLS head coach. I’m proud of that. I’m proud of it. I don’t like to talk about too much, but I like to show stuff. I like facts. So for me, this is part of that, for sure. If I can inspire people with that; to be limitless.

    “Like I’ve said before, impossible is an opinion. This is exactly that. For me, it’s really important because there is a lot of meaning behind that.”

    Nancy has spoken before about being a pioneer in the American game, one of a handful of Black head coaches in the league’s 28-year history.

    “When I was 18 years old, I decided to come here on vacation,” said Nancy. “My friend and I had to choose between Sao Paulo or New York. We came to New York, for 15 days, because we wanted to come to the United States. I enjoyed it so much that we had to leave after 10 days because we ran out of money and now all these years later, I am here with the whole organization at the White House.

    “When I talk about my story, the whole story, it was exactly that. This is amazing.”
     
  8. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How many years away from US citizenship is he lol
     
  9. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Huh? Is there some context missing here?
     
  10. KALM

    KALM Member+

    Oct 6, 2006
    Boston/Providence
    He's the first Black MLS head coach to visit the White House, i.e., the first Black MLS head coach to win MLS Cup.
     
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  11. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That makes more sense. I figured something wasn't said there.
     
  12. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
  13. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    I could see Berhalter back down the road if an “emergency” hire is ever needed.
     
  14. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


     
  15. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
  16. tomásbernal

    tomásbernal Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  17. KALM

    KALM Member+

    Oct 6, 2006
    Boston/Providence
    Pretty predictable after watching his Kickin' It interview (particularly the segment that they recap in the article).
     
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  18. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Storing that Jermaine Jones article in the ol memory bank for the next time a certain poster uses JJ as a character reference to defend Klinsman....
    The same guy who had multiple restraining orders against him?? Shocking!
     
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  19. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    Yeah, he clearly needs some help but frankly doesn't seem like the kind of person to go asking for it. It's a reminder that we really don't know any of these guys and often times what makes them a good player doesn't translate well to other things.
     
  20. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Jermaine is and has been in a tough place since he lost his family. They were his center and the only thing that kept him somewhat sane.

    The fact that he went on Kicking It and talked about how alone he was/is should have been heard as a cry for help to his former teammates who acknowledged that JJ would have broken his own leg if it would have helped the US win.

    It is disgusting that you are trying to link JJ troubles to Klinsmann who is currently getting paid a rumored $3.5m per until WC2026 to not coach after getting pain $3M per for 2 years by the US to not coach. He also got a similar amount after Bayern to not coach. Klinsmann is not concerned about you or JJ for that matter.

    Have a heart or at least pretend to have one. I know in the age of Orange Jesus that might be asking too much.
     
  21. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have no idea what you're even trying to say here... obviously what I said was far worse than a coach abusing his own players though, or his ex wife having to get a restraining order against him
     
  22. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Jermaine Jones?! Noooo. He seemed like such an honorable guy between the dirtiness on the field & the way he scapegoated Morris to deflect blame for the WC DQ. I for one am shocked!
     
  23. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    Most of what was said in this interview was not knew but two things I hadn’t heard before.

    The first is when they met with Pochettino he had dual nationals in mind both in the program he saw playing a major role and those he thought they needed to recruit.

    The second is that Crocker had an option B lined up in case the Pochettino deal fell through. He said he was very clear with this particular coach in terms of where he stood and that this coach was understanding and wanted to remain part of the process. Unsurprisingly he didn’t want to say who it was but just that it was a “top, top coach.”

    No idea who this coach was but went back and looked at one of the articles about the hire which said

    https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_...mauricio-pochettino-became-next-usmnt-manager

    Thomas Tuchel and Zinedine Zidane were discussed by the federation as part of a candidate pool that also included Pochettino, Matarazzo, Vieira, Rafa Benitez, Xavi, Thierry Henry, Marcelo Gallardo and Graham Potter.
     

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