Next Coach 2.0 (2024-26)

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by Eleven Bravo, Jul 12, 2024.

  1. Reccossu

    Reccossu Member+

    Jan 31, 2005
    Birmingham
    I'll believe it when I see it. After that Canada performance, Pochettino is a fool if he doesn't ask for a 50% increase in salary before signing because USSF mislead him about the resources available for the job.
     
  2. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

    Jan 10, 2001
    New Jersey
    I’m less worried about who he plans on bringing from the outside than who…if anyone…he’s planning on bringing from either inside US Soccer or inside us soccer.

    This is his first go at international soccer. There is not a lot of time, nor are there many windows…to familiarize yourself with the pool and its breadth (as opposed to depth…we have lots of players of equal caliber that may bring a little more of what he’s looking for than other equally talented players…and they all play in a wide variety of leagues)

    My biggest fear is that there are quite a few players at big clubs who are rapidly approaching a place where their club pedigree should no longer afford them the benefit of the doubt…who are now going to be afforded even more of a benefit of the doubt because of that pedigree.
     
  3. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He deleted the tweet lol
     
  4. Eliezar

    Eliezar Member+

    Jan 27, 2002
    Houston
    Club:
    12 de Octubre
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    New coach, new start.

    I’m interested in seeing how he rates players differently than what we have seen. Although to be fair to Greg, he picked about as good of a line up as he could for the Copa America.
     
  5. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Shaq Moore played in Copa America... Sean Johnson almost ended up being relevant at the #3
     
  6. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Did Shaq see the field?
     
  7. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    whats the virtue of carrying players you have no intention of using? is wasting a roster spot (or spots) positive in some way?
     
  8. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    I think he was a backup, that was his purpose. You can think it was a bad choice, but hardly an important one

    The guy I responded to said Shaq played in The Copa America, he did not
     
  9. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He did play a bit though not that much.
     
  10. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What are the resources he was misled about?
     
  11. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

    United States
    Mar 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't get it... I thought it was going to be made official today.?.? What happened?
     
  12. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I doubt it… He’s been around the block to know a broken team when he sees one, and also if that broken team can be easily fixed with the right changes.

    Any quality manager would be able to identify that our player pool alone is easily a top 20 program. And with the World Cup being played at home, this player pool could upset some teams in the top 10.

    It won’t be fixed overnight ~ but the right manager should be able to turn this program around within 2 years.

    Is Poch that right manager? I don’t know yet.
     
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  13. Crewmudgeon

    Crewmudgeon Member+

    Sep 3, 1999
    Crewdom
    Sorry but I'm not seeing it. We need to be realistic about our player pool.
     
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  14. Yowza

    Yowza Member+

    DC United
    United States
    Oct 23, 2019
    Arlington
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Argentina, Brazil, Colombia, Uruguay, Spain, France, England, Italy, Germany, Portugal, Netherlands, Belgium.
    I think most everyone would agree these nations have more talent. That’s twelve.
    I think the US is definitely in the mix for one of the next 8 spots in the top 20.
    The problem is the lack of high end talent, only Pulisic is close to world class and I don’t think he’s there personally. Even Poland has Lewandowski, you know? Even Canada has Davies.
    I’m hoping Gio can become that guy by ‘26 but it looks more like wishful thinking by the day.
    The lack of a true game breaker limits the ceiling while the relative depth raises the floor. No keepers or center backs worth mentioning maybe puts us outside the top 20 for me. That’s different than a year ago where I thought top 15.
     
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  15. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Whether one thinks the USMNT pool is top 15 or top 20 or top 25 doesn't matter much because there's not much of a gap between teams in that tier, they change places all the time unlike the elite teams.
     
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  16. TOAzer

    TOAzer Member+

    The Man With No Club
    May 29, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Poch Hire is taking on the aspect of a Fable.
     
  17. Reccossu

    Reccossu Member+

    Jan 31, 2005
    Birmingham
    That the pool of players is competent.
     
  18. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don’t think any promises were made to Pochettino about the pool of players and it’s not that hard for him to just watch our games from the last year.
     
  19. Rahbiefowlah

    Rahbiefowlah Member+

    Oct 22, 2001
    Las Vegas
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  20. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Per Transfermarkt he only got 5 minutes in the Brazil friendly
     
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  21. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is coming from a dude on Twitter who's seemingly been coasting on accidentally guessing the correct day Gregg Berhalter was fired and is now being treated as a reliable source. He claims to work for TV Azteca but Googling his name and TV Azteca brought up zero results (though to be fair maybe Google Translate is letting me down).

    He's been trying to parlay that with an announcement date for Poch and keeps being wrong. So it's starting to become quite likely he's just full of shit

    EDIT: Also it looks like he deleted TV Azteca from his bio lol, he's definitely a fraud
     
  22. MuchoTakeItEasy

    MuchoTakeItEasy Member+

    LAFC
    United States
    May 16, 2015
    Land of the Free
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think the confusion comes from when Scally got injured and looked like he was going to need to sub off. Moore was ready on the sidelines but Scally eventually was able to continue. I think it was against Uruguay.
     
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  23. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We may just agree to disagree. But I’ll stand on the hill that the USMNT still has more individual talent than it ever has, and it’s a top 20 player pool. The problem is we haven’t learned how to play well as a team. We have been performing worse than we actually are, which usually we get more out of our team than how good we actually are.
     
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  24. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Even the players themselves have recently hinted at there being something wrong with the mentality of the team. And, I wager the whole house that this is not a recent phenomenon.

    All of us could observe this at the Copa America. What an embarrassment! But anyone who was paying attention should have been able to see that Berhalter struggled throughout his time as head coach. Covid saved his job. Two impressive wins against Mexico allowed us to overlook a very poor WCQ. I won’t take away his getting out of the group at the WC, but will also acknowledge that we were favored to go through regardless based on talent over Wales and Iran. And then, the wheels just came off the bus.

    Fact is Berhalter broke this team. He was a one dimensional coach who allowed complacency and mediocrity to creep in. I can only imagine that opposing coaches could sum up Berhalter in one word: predictable.

    The problem is not going to be fixed overnight. But if Poch is the right hire, the ship has time to be on the right course in 2 years.

    *Fingers Crossed*
     
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  25. HScoach13

    HScoach13 Member+

    Nov 30, 2016
    Club:
    Atlanta

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