I think you are misjudging the size of country and population and the fact that Nordsjælland represent a country with less than 6 million people (so less than an American state on average), but is still outperforming all MLS or English PL clubs in development and sale of players below the age of 20.
Actually they are. It seems to me that some people in this thread think that San Diego will be able to outperform the Nordsjælland youth development within the RTD concept, which in my opinion is impossible, just as there would have never been a Brentford in the English PL if not for their Midtjylland partnership, Danish youth development and coaching team.
No point discussing it further as nothing has happened yet, we can check up on this and get an update in ten years when there's actual data to back up one side or the other in this argument. Until then you can feel free to leave and make your hundred posts about Nordsjælland or Midtjylland or any other lland somewhere where they are relevant and not in the San Diego thread in a forum for youth national teams of the UNITED STATES. See you in a decade
The whole thread is basically “This San Diego setup is interesting and should be a hotbed for prospects” and then one poster being all “It’ll never be as good as ours! We’re special Vikings!”
The size of a country is basically irrelevant when it comes to a club's track record of player development (especially when a lot of players are being recruited from other countries). It's not like a club has infinite resources to pour into developing an infinite pool. However, the number of clubs contributing to player development is very important, and this is a big reason why San Diego is a very welcome addition to MLS. But, San Diego FC is like negative one years old, and the landscape of genuine player development in the US is something like 10-15 years old in the best areas. It's still brand new in many other parts of the country. Comparing our output to Denmark's might be interesting for context, but it doesn't come close to telling the story of how these countries will compare with regard to player development in a few years time.
No it's not, in Europe there I'm only telling you what the actual intention of the investment in San Diego is all about, just like a future club and academy in England that will be next in this development plan of RTD, it is you who are making up 'fairy tales' about how you would like this to be, or like it to end up, but non of that is a part of the plan.
Of cause it makes a huge difference how big a country, league and the talent pool is. Attracting top foreign talent is not easy at all, especially in Europe, where you are up against much bigger neighboring countries and leagues. Every time a Danish top-flight club manage to attract a neighboring German youth international, like it was the case with Hany Mukhtar to Brøndby or the German U-21 NT captain Yann Aurel Bisseck to AGF Aarhus it's against all odds, because they would have had much better offers from much bigger destinations, but chose a place they believed could further their development better. So this is a tough competition that no American MLS club would stand a chance competing with, because they are neither capable or in need to do so for their own survival.
Starting to get pretty excited about my new team. The investment in development right off the bat is unbelievable.
If so, that's deplorable. US talent development is not currently there yet. Who knows ten years from now. Myself, I stick to your original claim "the best top-talents from Nordsjælland or Ghana are not going to move to San Diego or it's academy." I don't think that is so obvious a case. In particular for Ghana.
Or the opposite. The first club since Nashville SC to not start their academy before their MLS club. We saw how that worked out for Nashville.
They are building a $100M worth of facilities and they are run by one of the best developmental organizations out there ... but sure, the key thing here is they wanted to be patient and have things like coaches and fields instead of rushing their first season. They were awarded the team last July.
A lot of it comes down to genetics. I used to live in Copenhagen. Danes are on average very good athletes. The average Danish guy was like 6 foot 1 and pretty ripped. So for the San Diego academy, I guess it comes down to player selection. Are they going to follow the LA Galaxy model or the Philadelphia Union model
Picking and[/QUOTE] Picking and developing players that European clubs want to buy. One club is doing that well and one club is doing that terribly. I will let you figure out which one is which
Picking and developing players that European clubs want to buy. One club is doing that well and one club is doing that terribly. I will let you figure out which one is which[/QUOTE] Gotcha, I thought you were referring to a specific player selection philosophy
So you think a team in Utah has terrific natural talent? Nashville SC has never played a homegrown player one minute. They are in year 5 in MLS. That is pathetic. They shouldn't have any excuses for that. That is way beyond whether Tennessee is a great state for talent. They talked a good game too for why they didn't want to have an academy to start out (because that's really what this is as these clubs are in operation before they play MLS games). I don't choose to just believe these clubs that they'll do a good job. So far, the actions of San Diego FC are questionable, at best.
Gotcha, I thought you were referring to a specific player selection philosophy[/QUOTE] I’m referring to both. Youth development is part good player selection and part actually knowing to develop that talent. Philly does it the best in the U.S. right now. I wish more teams followed their model
How many Home Grown players have Portland and Minnesota signed? Or even given significant minutes to?
Owners and GMs are going to create a plan/model/philosophy based on what is most efficient for their specific situation. If they don't believe they have the market/expertise/facilities/etc. to be really good at player development, it doesn't make sense for them to spend tons of resources in that department. Not all clubs are going to excel there, and that's fine. Some clubs will build their rosters without homegrown talent. They will be at a disadvantage compared to the clubs who are able to produce their own players, but if a club doesn't think they can do that efficiently, it doesn't make sense for them to waste valuable resources trying.
San Diego has great weather year round and also a lot of good competition. The 14-17 year olds at San Diego FC residential academy will be able to train against good college programs such as San Diego State, USD, and UCSD, as well as high level club teams such as Surf. I have no idea if this is as good as the competition in Denmark, but I know San Diego has a lot of talent for an American county.
I’m referring to both. Youth development is part good player selection and part actually knowing to develop that talent. Philly does it the best in the U.S. right now. I wish more teams followed their model[/QUOTE] Ya I get it I thought you might have had more insight