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  1. NickyViola

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  2. thinredline10

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    Marco Matterazzi did nothing wrong...
     
  3. indestructible

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    this is gold
     
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  4. NickyViola

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  5. NickyViola

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  6. totti fan

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  7. totti fan

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  8. NickyViola

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    I'm not a fan of this guy. I've read a couple of his books and both of them were all fluff and little substance. I have a friend back in Boston who has taken his courses and stuff, though, and he's supposedly enjoying a lot of success with it.
     
  9. Deleted User x

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    Whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait a second there NickyV. The CIA is involved with drugs and starts wars around the world? And it's all done covertly?

    I thought only "kooks" believe that sort of thing.
     
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  10. totti fan

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    make sure you add of all of the associated deaths to the right wing death toll.
     
  11. Deleted User x

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    ???
     
  12. NickyViola

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  13. Sarcasm Bot

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    wonder if any of the extreme left had anything to say about bernie's wife lawyering up over bank fraud.

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  14. totti fan

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    You need to add at least a zero to the end of that 11 though.

    The following came up when I googled: "was Hitler an idealist"

    "Idealism does not represent a superfluous expression of emotion, but in truth it has been, is, and will be, the premise for what we designate as human culture...Without his idealistic attitude all, even the most dazzling faculties of the intellect, would remain mere intellect just like outward appearance without inner value, and never creative force....The purest idealism is unconsciously equivalent to the deepest knowledge..."
    Adolf Hitler

    Nice quote there. Good sig in there somewhere for someone.
     
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  15. totti fan

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    Extreme left? Pretty sure the last of those guys were accounted for in the 20 million.
     
  16. indestructible

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    I'm having trouble making sense of the world these days
     
  17. O'Ghiattone

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    Maricon needs to put his meat tickler into an age appropriate growler before he tries talk shite to the french and the rest of europe, the dirty sex fiend.
     
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  18. Deleted User x

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    So 110 million?

    The total casualties for WW2 range from 55 to 60 million.

    You are a communist propagandist.
     
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  19. totti fan

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    I was relying on memory. But that 20 million has changed since scholars gained access to Soviet archives.

    "All in all, the Germans deliberately killed about 11 million noncombatants, a figure that rises to more than 12 million if foreseeable deaths from deportation, hunger, and sentences in concentration camps are included. For the Soviets during the Stalin period, the analogous figures are approximately six million and nine million. These figures are of course subject to revision, but it is very unlikely that the consensus will change again as radically as it has since the opening of Eastern European archives in the 1990s"​

    Figures describing Soviet civilian death tolls were exaggerated because Stalin was the new enemy. He was the Assad of the time, after being a former ally.

    "Apart from the inaccessibility of archives, why were our earlier assumptions so wrong? One explanation is the cold war. Our wartime and postwar European alliances, after all, required a certain amount of moral and thus historical flexibility"
    Stalin was the good guy in the US after he killed those 20 or 6 million.

    "We formed an alliance with Stalin right at the end of the most murderous years of Stalinism, and then allied with a West German state a few years after the Holocaust."
    http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2011/03/10/hitler-vs-stalin-who-killed-more/

    Stalin was a bad person but when you include the death toll from military personnel and include their justifications for the slaughter Hitler was much worse.

    It's also worth keeping in mind that if it weren't for Stalin's red army our parents would probably have grown up in a german client state.
     
  20. indestructible

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    http://www.jta.org/2017/01/31/news-...lated-victims-tally-irks-holocaust-historians

    "It is, however, a number without any scholarly basis."
     
  21. indestructible

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    Marxist revisionist history is always a hoot.
     
  22. Deleted User x

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    Then why did hundreds of thousands of Estonians, Ukrainians and even Russians defect from the Red Army to the Nazi side?
     
  23. Deleted User x

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    Communist leader Mao Zedong. Recognized as the greatest mass murderer of all-time with a death toll in the range of 65 million. @totti fan. Let's hear how he wasn't all that bad.


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  24. totti fan

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    Mao, Stalin and Bernie Sanders three peas in a pod. Is that it?
     
  25. Calcio Pauly

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    "Who Killed More?"

    Is there a dumber competition out there to try and win, and/or defend?

    And a big lol at scholars getting access to Soviet archives :laugh:
     
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