NEW PaeTec Park design

Discussion in 'Rochester Rhinos' started by MD_05, Mar 13, 2003.

  1. Jim Bob Rhino

    Jim Bob Rhino Member

    Jan 17, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They are going to look long and hard at FieldTurf (they are scheduling a preseason game on it to help in the decision) largely due to traffic issues at the stadium. To make the business case work they need to host several not soccer events that natural grass may not hold up well under.

    Plus, artificial turf is cheaper to maintain.

    I think how things go in Seattle, Dallas, and with the MetroStars this year will help them decide which way to go as well.
     
  2. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They should look at how Foxboro somehow manages to maintain a great grass surface with the NFL, MLS and other events held there.
     
  3. Revolt

    Revolt Member+

    Jun 16, 1999
    Davis, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Or, maintained by NOT holding matches there.
     
  4. Jim Bob Rhino

    Jim Bob Rhino Member

    Jan 17, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I know one way that Gillette Stadium has helped preserve their field is moving events like field band competitions to another venue. That may not be an option at PTP.

    At the end of the day it will likely be a business decision. And the business case for going with natural grass over FieldTurf is a very tough case to make.

    The business side argument that can be made in favor of natural grass is if MLS and/or US Soccer comes out and says that they won't play matches on FieldTurf. But don't think you'll see that happening anytime soon. I know the Rhinos feel confident that US Soccer would play matches on FieldTurf because the USWNT has played a match on it already. And MLS will have 2 teams playing on FieldTurf this season.
     
  5. Jim Bob Rhino

    Jim Bob Rhino Member

    Jan 17, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    http://www.democratandchronicle.com/sports/columns/0318story1_columns.shtml

    When the New York-New Jersey MetroStars were looking for a strong team to scrimmage prior to their Major League Soccer opener April 12 against Columbus, they contacted the A-League powerhouse Rochester Raging Rhinos.

    It was good timing, because the Rhinos are studying assorted playing surfaces for PaeTec Park and wanted to check out the new synthetic turf at Giants Stadium.

    So the Rhinos will scrimmage the MetroStars at Giants Stadium Sunday, April 6. To return the favor, the MLS team will visit Frontier Field for a friendly match Tuesday, Aug. 19.

    The scrimmage will cap the first week of practice for the Rhinos, who’ll open the A-League season Friday, May 2, at Frontier Field against the Atlanta Silverbacks.

    “It should be a great experience for our team, although I know our players won’t be in 100 percent game shape,” Rhinos general manager Chris Economides said.

    The scrimmage will be closed to the public.

    “Giants Stadium has a type of top-shelf synthetic turf that could be preferable to grass at PaeTec Park because we want to host as many events as possible, including Section V soccer, football and lacrosse playoffs,” said Economides.

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    That covers that topic quite well I would say.
     
  6. drew_VT_6

    drew_VT_6 Member

    Feb 22, 2000
    Orange County, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    PTP Updates as of 4/16/03

    The bulldozers are supposed to start pushing dirt around in August and the contractor is claiming a 6/15/04 opening date.

    Democrat&Chronicle Article:
    http://www.democratandchronicle.com/news/0415story015953_news.shtml

    Quote from Frank DuRoss (Rhinos Owner):
    There has been much progress "behind the scenes" but nothing that would call for a press confrence. We are making great progress, plan on breaking ground and starting construction by this summer. MLS is aware of our progress and our 6/15/04 opening.

    http://www.rhinossoccer.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=903
     
  7. SoccerStar

    SoccerStar New Member

    Apr 14, 2003
    How long will it take to get Phase I built?
     
  8. drew_VT_6

    drew_VT_6 Member

    Feb 22, 2000
    Orange County, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Construction Bids In

    Rhinos GM Steve Donner says the A-League Rhinos received two bids that came in under budget for the construction of PaeTec Park. Management hopes to decide within the next week between LeChase Construction or The Pike Company.

    http://www.rochesterdandc.com/sports/columns/0417story1_columns.shtml


    SoccerStar- the 6/15/04 Opening will be of Phase I
     
  9. The Magpie

    The Magpie Member

    Nov 19, 1998
    Cambridge, MA
    "They should look at how Foxboro somehow manages to maintain a great grass surface with the NFL, MLS and other events held there..."

    Well, Gillette Stadium also has the most advanced turf management system in the NFL... a lot of money went into it.

    The Magpie
     
  10. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    not any more. the open-air loges at CCS are becoming closed suites.
     
  11. Hattrix

    Hattrix Member

    Sep 1, 2002
    Chicago
     
  12. drew_VT_6

    drew_VT_6 Member

    Feb 22, 2000
    Orange County, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  13. NACIONAL

    NACIONAL New Member

    Dec 31, 2001
    Medellin, Colombia
    I'm beggining to think that this stadium wont be builded.....
     
  14. drew_VT_6

    drew_VT_6 Member

    Feb 22, 2000
    Orange County, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think it will.

    Anybody else know when they'll (MLS, Don Garber)start talking about 2005 expansion?
     
  15. Rocket

    Rocket Member

    Aug 29, 1999
    Chicago
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    MLS has indicated that it'll announce its decision on expansion in 2005 toward the end of this season. Should they announce that they'll be expanding, I'd imagine they'd name the two expansion cities at that time as well.
     
  16. MD_05

    MD_05 New Member

    Oct 18, 2002
    Ohio
    as long as this new stadium gets built, i don't think there is any chance Rochester won't get into MLS. But, if two other cities do step up for expansion in 2005 (OKC and Houston, maybe), i could see them telling the Rhinos they'll be in in 2007, and to keep selling tickets and expand the stadium to Phase 2.
     
  17. NACIONAL

    NACIONAL New Member

    Dec 31, 2001
    Medellin, Colombia
    i think that your offer is a better bet
     
  18. drew_VT_6

    drew_VT_6 Member

    Feb 22, 2000
    Orange County, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why do people consider OKC before Rochester? Rochester is larger, has more people to draw from (Buffalo/Syracuse within an hour) and has proven itself time and again (NASL and ALeague)as a soccer market!


    Anyways more words from Frank DuRoss:
    Digging to start in August!
     
  19. BhoysFC1995

    BhoysFC1995 New Member

    Nov 30, 1999
    NYC
    exactly, rochester already has proven itself as city thats supports soccer. i think the support will be even bigger if the minor-league rhinos go 'major league'.
     
  20. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

    Jan 10, 2001
    New Jersey
    Does Duross actually want to be in MLS?
     
  21. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes.
     
  22. drew_VT_6

    drew_VT_6 Member

    Feb 22, 2000
    Orange County, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  23. Matrim55

    Matrim55 Member+

    Aug 14, 2000
    Berkeley
    Club:
    Connecticut
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  24. NACIONAL

    NACIONAL New Member

    Dec 31, 2001
    Medellin, Colombia
  25. drew_VT_6

    drew_VT_6 Member

    Feb 22, 2000
    Orange County, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

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