New Orleans murder rate ten times national average

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  1. Ian McCracken

    Ian McCracken Member

    May 28, 1999
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    There is probably not a worse place in the US that Hurricane Katrina could have hit. This article was written 10 days before the hurricane arrived.

    BIG EASY MURDER RATE TEN TIMES NATIONAL AVERAGE

    August 19, 2005....For the 19th time in the past 20 years, New Orleans has exceeded 200 murders. What is so disturbing is that it is only August and gruesomely high mark has already been exceeded. Where is the outrage? Where is the action? New Orleans is in the midst of a crisis, but the people have become so desensitized to the violence that the response is mere lethargy.

    New Orleans has so many incredible selling points—culture, food, people, history, architecture, festivals, charm and more; however, all of the attractiveness of New Orleans means nothing if citizens and tourists cannot feel safe. The summer of 2005 has been a violent one for New Orleans. The city’s murder rate is now 10% higher than last year and ten times the national average.
    ...
    As the murder rate of many cities is falling, the rate is surging in New Orleans. Drugs and poverty reign supreme in many of the poor neighborhoods in the city, but many cities face a similar problem. What make it worse in New Orleans is the lack of community response, inexperience prosecutors, irresponsible judges who allow criminals to be released from jail, and most importantly, a lack of police officers on the streets.

    New Orleans only has 3.14 officers per 1,000 residents, while the rate is double in many big cities, such as Washington D.C. Experts say that a police force of less than 1,700 is trying to do a job that calls for at least 2,200 officers.
     
  2. verybdog

    verybdog New Member

    Jun 29, 2001
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    Re: New Orleans murder rate ten time national average

    The thread title is racist! I declear!
     
  3. Barbara

    Barbara BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 29, 2000
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    Re: New Orleans murder rate ten time national average

    What's your point, Ian?
     
  4. okiebear

    okiebear New Member

    Mar 28, 2005
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    Re: New Orleans murder rate ten time national average

    He may be hinting at difficulty in helping these people because infrastructure and planning and organization and discipline were lacking.
     
  5. Ian McCracken

    Ian McCracken Member

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    Re: New Orleans murder rate ten time national average

    My point is exactly what the article says is the point. New Orleans was saddled with high crime, drugs, poverty, and an insufficient police force way before the hurricane arrived. There were a plethora of issues which came together, created a smoldering powder keg, and Katrina was merely the fuel to the fire. The city and state government was not up to the task before the mess and certainly didn't step up to the plate when needed. There is probably not another city in the US which would've experienced the massive failures and chaos after such a traumatic event.
     
  6. Barbara

    Barbara BigSoccer Supporter

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    Re: New Orleans murder rate ten time national average


    Well that would be the biggest "DUH" ever.
     
  7. Barbara

    Barbara BigSoccer Supporter

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    Re: New Orleans murder rate ten time national average


    Yeah, right. No other big city in the whole United States has problems with poverty, crime, drug abuse or corrupt government.

    Whatever.
     
  8. verybdog

    verybdog New Member

    Jun 29, 2001
    Houyhnhnms
    Re: New Orleans murder rate ten time national average

    Do you know 7 out of 10 are blacks in the city and state government?
     
  9. Barbara

    Barbara BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 29, 2000
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    Re: New Orleans murder rate ten time national average

    What is your point?
     
  10. verybdog

    verybdog New Member

    Jun 29, 2001
    Houyhnhnms
    Re: New Orleans murder rate ten time national average

    You are poor, aren't you?
     
  11. Ian McCracken

    Ian McCracken Member

    May 28, 1999
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    Re: New Orleans murder rate ten time national average

    Uhh, that is not true. 67% of New Orleans is black, however, statewide it's only 33%. So, the probably that 70% of the city and state government is black is extremely unlikely. Regardless, that really is irrelevant to this thread.
     
  12. Revolt

    Revolt Member+

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    Ian, I'm so glad you just found out that poverty and murder rates are highly correlated.
     
  13. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    How high were the murder rates in Dallas, Houston, San Antonio and other Texas cities during Bush's run as TX governor? I'd be curious to find out.

    And were the children "learnin'" under Dubya?
     
  14. Barbara

    Barbara BigSoccer Supporter

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    Re: New Orleans murder rate ten time national average

    You have never left your parent's basement, have you?
     
  15. verybdog

    verybdog New Member

    Jun 29, 2001
    Houyhnhnms
    Re: New Orleans murder rate ten time national average

    Only a black woman can see it.
     
  16. Nanbawan

    Nanbawan Member

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    Re: New Orleans murder rate ten time national average

    Yeah, Katrina is merely the cause of what happened in Biloxi and the Gulf Coast in general...
     
  17. Barbara

    Barbara BigSoccer Supporter

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    Re: New Orleans murder rate ten time national average

    And with that you wind up back on my ignore list.
     
  18. Ian McCracken

    Ian McCracken Member

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    Re: New Orleans murder rate ten time national average

    I don't recall looting, gangs, inadequate law enforcement, and pre-hurricane evacuation as a problem in Biloxi.
     
  19. Barbara

    Barbara BigSoccer Supporter

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    Re: New Orleans murder rate ten time national average


    Biloxi isn't a big city, either.
     
  20. IntheNet

    IntheNet New Member

    Nov 5, 2002
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    Well, the whole city will have to be rebuilt now, so perhaps its former crime reputation can be addressed in so doing; better lighting, more low income jobs, better low income housing, and tougher enforcement of laws. Since we now have a handle on the calibre of its police (1/3 AWOL) perhaps NO's law enforcement infrastructure can be rebuilt as well... New New Orleans might indeed be a new start for its former inhabitants.
     
  21. Nanbawan

    Nanbawan Member

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    Re: New Orleans murder rate ten time national average

    OK, but saying that Katrina is merely the reason for what turned out...
     
  22. DynamoKiev_USA

    DynamoKiev_USA New Member

    Jul 6, 2003
    Silver Spring, MD

    Gee maybe the rest of American cities can be rebuilt as well, or should we wait for more hurricanes?
     
  23. Nanbawan

    Nanbawan Member

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    Well, the problem is that those hurricanes will come anyway. Yet, I suppose it'll be in the same area or Florida.
     
  24. Revolt

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  25. Ian McCracken

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