In all of Levy's however-many managerial appointments, there are only three of whom you could find anything resembling consensus about having been good hires: Martin Jol, Harry Redknapp, and Mauricio Pochettino. None of them had CVs that included silverware. And every 'proven winner', at some point, had none on his CV, either. Bragging about what our manager won at Chelsea never gave me much of a thrill, if im honest. I just dont get this stuff.
Au contraire, mon ami, not a few million, a lot of millions. Last season, we received approximately 50 million pounds in merit payments for finishing 5th. This year, we will receive about 12 mil for finishing 17th. By my calculations, that is 38 million, which is a tad more than 'a few million`. Now, we supporters may not care about these details, but I can tell you our chairman didn't sign Ange to a 5-million-per contract to lose him 40 million quid. Again, I encourage you to do a little research before posting, it will go a long way to enhancing the quality of exchanges on this forum. That is the financial side of it. Now let us look at the results side of things, because a lot of our supporters are dismissing how historically bad this manager was. A few highlights: 39 losses in all competitions over 2 seasons. 34 losses in our last 66 PL games. 126 goals conceded in 2 PL seasons. This season we lost our home games to 2 of the 3 relegated teams. 20 losses in 29 games in all comps vs Liverpool, Arsenal, Man City, Chelsea, Newcastle and Villa. 1 point from 8 games against Arsenal and Chelsea. And I could go on, but you get the idea. The evidence over 2 seasons is overwhelming. The trophy was the football equivalent of going all in with a shit hand and getting an ace on the river.
Yes, the same Alan Shearer who managed Newcastle to relegation and then buggered off to the security of MOTD punditry.
I'm sure you were one of those supporters who would have taken Frank in February, but is now part of the Frank Out Brigade before we have kicked a ball in anger.
Ange basically sacked himself: This is what he said in January 2024: You can’t just sit back and say: I’ve just delivered a trophy, shouldn’t I have some latitude to not be successful? And in October 2024: Our league performance should be regarded as the most meaningful measure of our progress. If he went to court for wrongful dismissal, Levy's lawyers woud piss all over him.
But not the entirety of it, as 'earnings' would also include the 30m+ quid that came from winning the Europa League, to which you can add another 20m+ minimum that will come from our Champions League qualification. So while, yes, League position does significantly affect revenues, it doesn't stand that Ange's 'Cup over League' strategy hurt us finacially in the long run. Let's face it, Levy didn't sack him because he cost us in earnings. He sacked him because we were shite. If anything, that runs counter to the oft-cited criticism that the Chairman is myopic in his prioritization of the bottom line over results. ... hmmm ... that is, unless you factor in the fear of relegation.
That's not what I said. I was correcting Chickasaw's false assertion that the difference between finishing 5th and 17th was 38 million pounds and not the 'few million' he claimed.
Yes, and rightly so. I meant to highlight the (paraphrasing) 'Levy didn't hire him to lose him 40m quid' part, but was working when I realized I hadnt bolded it, and didn't get a chance to go back and do so. My point wasnt that you're wrong, but that, actually, on the earnings front, we didn't do as badly as our 17th implies.
Well, more than one article in Newsnow states that Frank will be appointed and, as on this website, opinion is polarised amongst the pundits. All sorts of names have been mooted as to whom we should buy and let go etc. I just wish I was as certain as those who endorse Frank as our next coach. He doesn't seem to have a CV which is apt for THFC. Ok, well, let's go and let's see how he does.
Frank seems like a good manager. The problem is it's not clear what the board wants. Win trophies? Finish 4th every year to get the CL money? Play attractive football? Who the hell knows?
Not sure what our supporters want: They clamour for 'proven winners', then run Jose and Conte out of town because the football was too boring. They want 'entertaining football', then back a manager who sets club records for futility and praise the team for losing 6-3 at home. They retroactively call the manager who got us to a CL final and our best league finish since the early 1960s a 'loser' because he didn't win a trophy. They trash a manager who got a small London-based club to the PL on a shoestring budget, before he has even had a chance to play a game. Sometimes you get the team you deserve.
Declan Wiseman, EditorNews,Premier League,Tottenham Hotspur Micky van de Ven Questions Tottenham Hotspur’s ‘Strange’ Decision as Player Revolt Threat Revealed Tottenham Hotspur centre-back Micky van de Ven has taken to the press to react to the sacking of Ange Postecoglou. This comes as rumours gather on the growing animosity in the Spurs squad as a result of the club’s decision. I don't think we've heard the last of this.
Good luck Thomas. You'll get NO loyalty from Levy should you win a trophy. You're in Ange's long shadow.
A shadow cast by a club record 22 league defeats. I guess some of our supporters are still going through the 4 Stages of Ange Denial: 1. Shock: This stage involves refusing to accept the loss. It can manifest as shock, dumbfoundedness or calling into Talksport to trash Daniel Levy. 2. Ange Rage: As the reality of the loss sinks in, supporters may feel anger towards themselves, others (people who can read the PL table), or even a higher power (Daniel Levy). This can include feelings of frustration, resentment, or unfairness. 3. New Manager Hate: During this stage, individuals may try to diminish the accomplishments of the new manager or past managers, while completely ignoring the ineptitude of the outgoing one. 4. Reluctant Acceptance: This stage involves coming to terms with the loss and finding a way to cope with it. It's not necessarily a state of happiness, but rather an acceptance of the reality of the situation. Some supporters will secretly (or openly) wish that the new manager fails, so they can crawl out of the woodwork and shout: 'I told you so!'.
Here's the official: it's a 3-year deal https://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/2025/june/thomas-frank-joins-as-head-coach/
Indeed, but normal stuff in these kinds of negotiations, a lot of moving parts. Which makes me think that Levy was not involved*. Our last two manager searches were pretty calamitous and drawn out under his watch. He told Nagelsmann that he couldn't bring his coaches and the same to Nuno. He wouldn't meet Feyenoord's fee for Slot. I don't know what it is, but something feels different about the club. *Speculation disclaimer
He wasn't that successful a chairman, either. Could you imagine a Liverpool or a Man City saying to a Klopp or a Pep: 'No, you can't bring your coaching staff with you'...
Im pretty sure that it was Slot who rejected Spurs, not Feyenoord. I read an interview where he was addressing it, saying it was essentially down to family dynamics. It may have been diplomatic bullshit, seeing as he came to England a year on. But Feyenoord's fee wasnt the issue - it was Slot who said no.
Good technical analysis of the new gaffer: https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...rank-unpredictable-mourinho-conte-postecoglou