Yeah, the Bengals lucked into Burrow and Chase and that's covered up a lot of incompetence elsewhere. They have a GM who took John Ross the pick before Patrick Mahomes. They have ownership who insist on running the team and are confirmed to be bad at it. The Haslams should be pretty liquid as they sold off their interest in Pilot/Flying J to Berkshire Hathaway a few years back. They also don't necessarily have to sell anything as they can use a stock portfolio for collateral against a loan. It's subject to margin calls but if the stocks are appreciating at a faster rate than the interest payments on the loan, it would make sense. The Bengals refuse to use language from other teams for their participation agreement then insist Stewart needs to sign other team's language for his contract. He should refuse that. The team tried that with Mims last year and eventually gave up at the start of training camp. They'll likely do the same with Stewart as they have no leverage otherwise. He's not under contract so he can't be fined for skipping training camp and preseason games. So he's not out any money until the regular season starts. There was a smoking gun collusion email between Dean Spanos, the Chargers owner, and Michael Bidwill, the Cardinals owner. They were both happy that Kyler Murray's contract wasn't heavily guaranteed so that left the Chargers in better shape to extend Justin Herbert.
Judge Christopher F. Droney, head of the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit, dismissed the NFLPA's claim because the evidence presented didn't prove collusion.
A lot of time you have to put money in escrow account when doing huge deals. This is why the Bengals went from Paul Brown Stadium to Paycor because Mike Brown doesn’t have anywhere near the money available as HSG. But we are talking a lot of money and HSG has their hands dabbling in a lot of different directions. So I continue to stand on my point that while he has the money it’s definitely going to make him focus more on certain investments and stop him from making any other huge investments they could easily make otherwise. He has to have some constraints during this time when normally he can do whatever he wants. You can only allocate so much money outside of this Brook park deal. He just got a lot of money from Edwards but still is majority owner this is a clear sign that the Browns and Brook park are priority #1
Droney found that the owners colluded but that the plaintiff players couldn't prove they suffered from it so he awarded no damages. Both the league and union hid the decision for several months before it leaked. Mike Brown isn't trying to build a stadium and his team generates plenty of money to pay players. They get a fixed 50% of defined gross revenues which leaves the other half for other operating costs and profit. NFL teams are highly profitable if you weren't aware. Yes, for HSG, the Browns are their prize possession. Bucks seems to be 2nd and the Crew 3rd. I believe Dee and Whitney have some investment in the NWSL but that may be outside HSG.
No bengals have issues with guaranteed money because the lack of cash flow , poorest owner in NFL. They sold naming rights which help or Burrow and that’s common knowledge. all this guaranteed money favors teams with rich owners like Cleveland & Dallas they can spend big and push dead cap money into the future which is total opposite strategy from Cincinnati with very lil dead cap money . Bengals literally can’t get in that type of arm race , I wish they would get a minority % owner with a lot of money to help better the franchise but it’s not likely to ever happen until Mike Brown dies and even then it might not happen. Bengals want money also but plan to renovate rather than build a new stadium. Brown could never take on a project like HSG. Just doesn’t have money like that.
It's not even a stock portfolio. They use their interests in the sports teams and other private ventures, which are not subject to market volatility or regular repricing, as the collateral to secure their loans. The Brown family has plenty of money to offer multi-year guarantees. They could get credit lines by collateralizing the value of the franchise, and restructure deals or do in-season trades to spread out the liability, even if they didn't have immediate cash to escrow (which again, they do). It's a choice. They choose to not operate like the rest of the NFL. They would rather overpay a bunch of bad players for one year than to pay a great player at their market term and value. It's why the argument of "you can't blame them because they spend to the cap" is dumb. They actively mismanage their cap situation by choosing to be cheap on how they do contracts.
Here’s a look at NFL team payrolls for 2024 from highest to lowest: Team Total Payroll Cleveland Browns $246.4M Atlanta Falcons $246.2M Cincinnati Bengals $238.7M Baltimore Ravens $230.9M Kansas City Chiefs $228.9M Indianapolis Colts $225.6M Chicago Bears $224.8M San Francisco 49ers $224.7M New York Giants $223.8M Jacksonville Jaguars $217.9M Los Angeles Rams $216.9M Pittsburgh Steelers $216.4M Seattle Seahawks $215.3M Houston Texans $214.2M Arizona Cardinals $213.9M Dallas Cowboys $210.5M Carolina Panthers $207.3M New Orleans Saints $205.2M Miami Dolphins $198.7M Washington Commanders $197.8M Tennessee Titans $197.3M Las Vegas Raiders $196.9M Green Bay Packers $195M Los Angeles Chargers $188.1M New York Jets $187.6M Detroit Lions $185M Minnesota Vikings $184.5M Buffalo Bills $184.3M Philadelphia Eagles $182.8M Denver Broncos $181.7M New England Patriots $175.1M Tampa Bay Buccaneers $174.5M Dead cap $ by team 2024 Denver Broncos: $85.21MM New York Giants: $79.57MM Minnesota Vikings: $69.83MM Buffalo Bills: $68.47MM Carolina Panthers: $68.28MM Green Bay Packers: $65.53MM Tennessee Titans: $62.89MM Philadelphia Eagles: $61.95MM Tampa Bay Buccaneers: $60.64MM New Orleans Saints: $59.44MM New York Jets: $59.24MM Los Angeles Chargers: $58.62MM New England Patriots: $53.37MM Miami Dolphins: $52.28MM Seattle Seahawks: $52MM Jacksonville Jaguars: $51.2MM Las Vegas Raiders: $49.37MM Washington Commanders: $42.81MM Houston Texans: $39.28MM Cleveland Browns: $38.79MM Los Angeles Rams: $34.63MM Detroit Lions: $33.71MM Pittsburgh Steelers: $30.18MM Chicago Bears: $29.65MM Arizona Cardinals: $29.35MM San Francisco 49ers: $26.91MM Dallas Cowboys: $26.79MM Baltimore Ravens: $21.35MM Kansas City Chiefs: $12.65MM Indianapolis Colts: $11.8MM Atlanta Falcons: $11.55MM Cincinnati Bengals: $9.11MM So I’m going to have to disagree , now the biggest issue is they should have kept Jessie Bates & DJ Reader two key guys from the SB team and without them the defense struggled. Lou was not good with young players at all so it was a bad strategy to get younger with him as the DC. Ppl bash the draft picks rightfully so but Duke Tobin when teamed with Marvin Lewis drafted very well. They were the combo in 18 who drafted Jessie Bates. Tobin deserves credit for that SB team and also criticism for not keeping those 2 key pieces of it. You say even if they didn't have immediate cash to escrow (which again, they do). I heard otherwise but what I know is the Bengals are very slow and reluctant to change with the times. When Paul Brown died the team fell apart and until Marvin Lewis era we didn’t make very many changes. Lewis was a good coach who got some unlucky injuries like Palmer VRS Pittsburgh in the playoffs. But at the end of his tenure he couldn’t get over the hump to win in playoffs and started taking a lot of guys with character issues and it came back to bite him. I just want them to win a SB in my lifetime
https://www.dispatch.com/story/ente...tival-columbus-crew-stadium-ohio/84183774007/ Danny Wimmer Presents has signed a deal to bring Sonic Temple to Columbus for the next five years. This year's festival brought people from 40 or so states and and $8m to the community. Sonic Temple took place May 8-11, drawing a record 175,000 people and shattering 2024’s record of 138,000-plus attendees, according to Columbus Crew's vice president of communications, Rob McBurnett. Josh Glessing, Columbus Crew's president of business operations, said the extension is a two-way street leading to a win-win for DWP and Haslam Sports Group, which owns the Columbus Crew. “We want to bring major events through central Ohio … Danny Wimmer and Sonic Temple see Columbus as a market they want to bring their event to,” Glessing said.
Your numbers just reinforce what I said lol. They're second in spend and last in actual commitment because they prioritize stupid short term deals and waste a ton of cap space on bad players. It's what happens when they choose to sign Geno Stone at 2yrs/$14M with no guarantees (because he sucks so bad he doesn't merit guaranteed money) instead of paying an actual starting caliber safety in Jessie Bates what he's worth in term and guarantees. Couldn't disagree with you more on Marvin Lewis either. One of the worst big game coaches I've seen at any level of football. No other organization would tolerate a coach going 0-3 in the playoffs, much less 0-7. He could have been valuable if just sticking to player personnel work but that again would have required the Brown family to actually invest in a scouting department instead of just having Duke Tobin monopolizing the draft process.
Low effort Shit-post Translation -- We know the fans and the fans want a louder game day experience. Seriously though, $8M in economic impact over four days at HCS is pretty solid.
How much does Arnold bring in over a weekend? I have to imagine sonic temple is 2nd to that in terms of revenue.
The Quarter Horse Congress brings in a ridiculous amount of money. In supposedly generates close to $500m for the local economy and brings 650k people to the area.
My brother and wife attend this every year since they are horse people which basically means all of their money is walking around on 4 legs.
My favorite QH Congress story is about a young boy, maybe 7 or 8, who is buying a hat at one of the vendors. He pulls out a wad of bills that would choke a rhino and peels off a.few. The booth guy says "say, thats an awful lot of money for a young kid" to which the boy replies " Yes, but daddy says it has to last the whole week" The amount of money those people bring is beyond belief.
Right up there with the great-grandma who dropped the armed assailant that burst into her hotel room. Professional horse people are a different breed and don't f#ck around.
There was an article that ran down the biggest revenue-generating events of 2024, but I'll be damned if I can find it. However, the $8M brought in by that music festival would be way down the list in terms of revenue generated. The MLS All Star Game generated $20M in direct spending by visitors. The US Figure Skating Championships generated the same $8M that the music fest did. The African Methodist Episcopal Church's 2024 General Conference generated $15M; roughly the same as the Arnold. The Public Library Association’s annual conference generated over $10M in direct visitor spending. AmericanHort’s Cultivate conference in July generated close to $8M. The Quarter Horse Congress is on a different plane, entirely, in part because it runs for 30 days. It generates well over $400M in revenue for the local economy. Columbus hosted 435 conventions, trade shows and sporting events in 2024.
That's an excellent way to say "he's loaded" without saying "that would make Anthony McTrustFund jealous".
The study was a couple of years old but it's estimated that the Memorial brings in at least $35M per year. I'd be interested in some of the bigger youth soccer tournaments bring in each year. I'm sure the Nike Cup does well especially since it's held over multiple weekends.
That's fair, but a lot of those are one-time events for Columbus, are they not? Part of Sonic Temple is that it keeps coming back, which is part of why I posted. None of it is money to sneeze at, however. And I'm sure the Buckeye Country Fest will be back. APPARENTLY it was supposed to be at HCS, but previous management didn't want it for whatever reason (trying to move the team would be my guess). The Memorial is sort of a different breed yet. Yes, it's a lot of money, but I'd also be interested to know what happens to that TV money. Obviously ESPN and CBS pay a fortune in TV rights and some of that trickles into the community, but it'd probably be tricky to tell how much gets spent locally by the locally-based producers, directors, camera guys, techs, etc. Another event that flies under the radar, but brings in a surprising amount of money? A little thing that puts 40-50k (my dumb guess based entirely on attending just one, seeing pictures and trying to navigate campus that AM) people in Ohio Stadium every May called graduation. Does @GoCrew1996 have any insight on how this year's OSU Not A Spring Game hurt because they didn't decide it was a spring game until that week? Attendance was notably down from the 85-95k they usually get. The biggest event outside OSU football is the horse show, no question about it. Not to get political, but I wouldn't be surprised if the city eventually lands a national convention eventually...of either party. That's huge money there too.
The.national political conventions boil down to having massive numbers of downtown hotel rooms and an airport that has direct flights from everywhere. I dont think Columbus hits either mark. For events like the Congress and the Arnold, a lot of attendees happily stay at Holiday Inn Express and such, and you can't find a room much closer than Zanesville or Delaware. But at a convention everybody is on an expense account and they want both close and deluxe.