New-ish Crew Ownership/FO Thread

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  1. TRUJDUB21

    TRUJDUB21 Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Sep 28, 2021
    I would want a womans team here over Cleveland but it might save me money if it were in Cleveland. We already have Crew2 so a woman’s team might actually do better up north.

    your thoughts ?
     
  2. Ball Kicker

    Ball Kicker Member

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Aug 11, 2022
    we already have a woman’s team, the Columbus Eagles. Granted they’re amateur (I believe) but it’s not like they don’t exist. I would be all for them joining the pro ranks, but I am going to assume that Cleveland gets in (Haslams) and then Cincinnati gets in just because of FCC.
     
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  3. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
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    I, having a hard time thinking of one single city that didn't have a lower division men's or women's team when they started an MLS or NWSL team.
     
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  4. TRUJDUB21

    TRUJDUB21 Member+

    Columbus Crew
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    Sep 28, 2021
    Well I’m talking specifically a Columbus Crew named woman’s team
     
  5. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
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    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
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    Heck, they probably did in the old NASL days as well. At least whatever iteration of the ASL that existed at the time.
     
  6. Paul171121

    Paul171121 Member+

    Columbus Crew
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    Dec 14, 2018
    Didn't the owner go on local news or speak to NEO-Trans before? And doesn't someone on here know him.

    edit this was from friday. Great fact checking from Scarves and Stripes /s https://www.wkyc.com/article/life/p...adium/95-d93696b1-8b55-4f84-8689-2e6fc3dd969c
     
  7. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    #1682 Bill Archer, Aug 12, 2024
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    I just love those articles, which appear everywhere every time someone wants money for a stadium.

    Kick in a little money and -our studies show - it will pour billions, trillions, mega-bazillions into the local economy.

    It never has and it never will.

    And of course you need to do it for the children, to provide inspiration for young girls to become....um...somewhat older girls or something. It's not clear.

    And an NWSL will make the global community sit up and take notice that Cleveland is a world class city, just like it did for....well, somebody, surely.

    The same warmed over bullshit. Mostly, the goal is the same as it always is: a group of investors want to kick in a few bucks and watch franchise values explode over the next 10 years when they can sell and use the money on something they give a crap about.

    A pox on all their houses.
     
  8. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
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    #1683 Kryptonite, Aug 12, 2024
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    If I understand it correctly and had to guess cities, I'd start with Tampa and Salt Lake City. Philadelphia, maybe. Technically there's a gray area with New England since they don't play in Boston, but cover all of New England. I doubt Foxborough, MA had a team in 1995, but maybe they did.

    Obviously we had the Xoggz in the USISL Select League. Seattle, Portland and other cities had USL teams.
     
  9. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    If the Haslams wanted a NWSL team, wouldn't Columbus make more sense than Cleveland? Our metro area is about the same size but we could draw from a wider area, including the southern half of the state. Presumably the team would play at LDC rather than HCS so it would be more dates and revenue for the new place. I bet they could draw 6-7K with good marketing.
     
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  10. Paul171121

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    Dec 14, 2018
    Everyone has come out and said that reporter is a high schooler and has no merit. The Haslams have invested in women sports before, but I don't think they have anything to do with the Cleveland Pro Soccer group. I believe they were competing with the haslams for a plot of land in downtown.
     
  11. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    Didn't Dee and Whitney invest in NWSL at some level previously? Gotham, maybe?
     
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  12. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
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    United States
    I think I recall that they invested in the league itself somehow rather than any individual team. Or maybe I'm misremebering.
     
  13. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
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    United States
    IIRC, the only Cleveland big league team I've heard linked with the soccer group is the Cavs (other than the Browns/Crew handling the introductions between the group and MLSNP).
     
  14. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    I looked it up and Dee and Whitney invested in the WNBA.
     
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  15. DRWCrew

    DRWCrew Member

    Aug 11, 2003
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    Tampa had a long history with the Rowdies who are now on like their 3rd or 4th life. Philly has had a handful of teams and had some minor league teams when MLS started but that had oddly dried up before 2010 when the Union came into the league. NE has had a host of pro and semi-pro teams over the years in the 70s and 80s but nothing else until the Revs. SLC is the only one I don't know anything about.
     
  16. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
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    #1691 Bill Archer, Aug 14, 2024
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    The Utah Blitzz was a moderately successful USL team in the early 2000's and the owners were talking about making an MLS bid, but Dave Checketts, who had a ton of professional franchise experience in other sports, corralled up some investors and a half assed stadium fantasy that Garber bought and he got the team.

    It was unfortunate in several ways, but the worst was that there were some hard core Blitzz fans who resented the way it went down and hated Checketts, who was sort of a Dave Greeley type hustler. Took a while for the resentments to die down
     
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  17. kgilbert78

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    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
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  18. Paul171121

    Paul171121 Member+

    Columbus Crew
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    Dec 14, 2018
    Not sure where to put this but Tom Bogert said in his podcast at 25:30, that in 2022, the Crew interviewed Mikey Varas (USSF/FC Dallas) and were interested in Jim Curtin. Nancy was the top choice.

    Nancy's assistant, Damet, is a top name in coaching discussions. Didn't realize Damet we bought from LAG, not Montreal.
     
  19. Paul171121

    Paul171121 Member+

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    Dec 14, 2018
    Oh he corrected himself. It was Cincinnati who wanted Jim Curtin. That makes more sense.
     
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  20. Smithsoccer1721

    Smithsoccer1721 Member+

    Feb 16, 2007
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    That was pretty public information at the time considering the Chris Albright hire
     
  21. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
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  22. KCbus

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    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    God.

    I heard the same line for a long time every four years about MLS. I heard the same line about the NHL when they were sending their players to the Olympics. Now some women's soccer fans are falling for it.

    These events can create new fans, but the meteoric rise never happens. (Side note: Meteors fall. They don't rise. Where did that phrase come from?)
     
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  23. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    Back in 1999 when the women were forming whichever version of a professional soccer league in the wake of winning the WWC, Julie Foudy may or may not have said that they didn't want to throw in with MLS, which was on offer, because they didn't want those smelly, hairy boys riding on their coattails.

    Then they burned through $100 million which was supposed to last five years, in the first 12 .onths, found some imbeciles to invest some more to keep it open another season and then folded.

    We're now on, what, the fourth iteration of a ladies pro soccer league? They've been selling this same crap for 25 years about what a wonderful future they have and they've burned enough money to build a bridge to France.

    And women's soccer in Europe is actually much better than in the US and has actual fans and TV deals and all the rest.

    As for MLS not being as good as anything in Europe, it's not worth responding to a moron who knows nothing.
     
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  24. KCbus

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    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
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    I remember Foudy jumping up and down saying that women's soccer was too good to associate with MLS. But from MLS' perspective, was that even a possibility at the time?
     
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  25. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    I agree that I can't see how it would have worked. Shared stadium arrangements, ticketing, pr and administration combined, there were some definite cost advantages, but they were already losing .only hand o er fist.

    Stl, yes, MLS submitted a proposal to USSF along with, I think, two other groups and they chose a different one
     

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