New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft accused of soliciting sex, police say

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  1. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    Feb 13, 2010
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  2. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
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  3. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

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    #78 ToMhIlL, Feb 26, 2019
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    Well, they're not going to make him sell either team, and even if he did decide to "retire" as the official owner of either or both teams, his imbecile son will be no better.

    As much of a Kraft critic as I have been at times, there's nothing to gloat about here. It's just sad all around. The problem with a lot of very rich and powerful people is that they surround themselves with yes-men (and women). We all need someone there to whack us upside the haid and tell us not to do something stupid. Myra was that person for Bob Kraft. Several years ago, the Pats had used their top draft pick on a guy who had (unproven) rape charges against him in college, and a number of "bad character" incidents. Even after they drafted him, Myra was the one who convinced Bob to cut him loose because he was a shitty human being, even if he might have been a good player. I don't follow the NFL enough to know if another team picked him up, but that was clearly her influence. She also was involved in lots of philanthropic efforts and other good causes. By all accounts, she was a great person.

    When Myra died, there was no one to tell Bob what he needed to hear, not what he wanted to hear.
     
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  4. Mike Marshall

    Mike Marshall Member+

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    Not sure he would have run this particular decision by Myra.
     
  5. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
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    This.

    Not to excuse him for this, but when my first wife Jana died in 2012, I was pretty much a basket case for a couple of years. Sometimes it was all I could do to get out of bed in the morning.
     
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  6. asoc

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    I find it interesting his Lawyer has been saying he did nothing wrong.
     
  7. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

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    I find it tediously boring. Dog-bites-postman. Quakes-don't-qualify-for-playoffs. Lawyer-professes-client's-innocence-in-the-face-of-overwhelming evidence-of-guilt. :)
     
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  8. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    I like how the letter calls him "The Kraft" once.
     
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  9. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    Someone need to go over to Don's house and give him a hug?
     
  10. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Member+

    Feb 11, 2002
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    MLS will punish Robert Kraft by making him keep the Revs...
     
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  11. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
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    I just saw a description of the videos, which is phrased in specific but very formal terms.

    The second one is just horrifying: Kraft removes all his clothing and lies face up on the table. The woman then places her head in his pelvic region for a period of.....AAAAAHHHH. NO MORE, I BEG YOU

    Im sure at some point these videos will leak and it will take a stronger man than I to intentionally watch a wrinkked old 77 year old naked man get a hummer.

    Ew.
     
  12. tomásbernal

    tomásbernal Member+

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    The description is in a tweet posted in this thread recently. For me, the most hilarious is the time frame. I think it was something like 6 or 7 minutes from when he went into the room until the woman cleaned up with a towel. And that happened twice in two days, but--and I assure you - - he didn't know he was going for a (very quick) happy ending either time.
     
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  13. zhe fulano

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    Jan 31, 2010
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    Florida's version is called the Public Records Act. It is under Chapter 119 of Florida Statutes. Fortunately for soccer fans, we have FIFA goal line video technology.

    What's to say Mr. Kraft didn't go in for a legitimate, perfectly legal massage only to coincidentally find that the lady servicing him happened to be the true love of his life? True love at first sight thereby leading to consensual extracurricular activity? Could it be?

    I wouldn't believe it either.
     
  14. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

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    Jan 3, 2018
    Love at first blow? Never heard of it.
     
  15. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

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    sex slave
     
  16. Roger Allaway

    Roger Allaway Member+

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    A writer at the Philadelphia Inquirer said the other day that no matter what the legal, NFL or MLS outcome of this, it's going to be in the second paragraph of Kraft's obit some day. He'll never be able to escape it, and that's a serious sentence.
     
  17. POdinCowtown

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    Jan 15, 2002
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    Kraft's lawyer requested a bench trial (no jury) today.
     
  18. Lloyd Heilbrunn

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    Surprised he didn't request a massage table trial...
     
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  19. NashSC

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    Jan 3, 2018
    That's a low blow...oh wait that is what he got.
     
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  20. don gagliardi

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  21. TOAzer

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    Not ever since I read me my Shakespeare.....:notworthy:
     
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  23. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

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    The main principle applies here. Until now Kraft has been a superstar, admired and loved and all that crap

    By everyone but soccer fans of course.

    Now, it just doesn't matter how this turns out. Hes now the old guy getting his weasel greased in a strip mall handjob parlor and will be forever more

    No other details matter.
     
  24. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Moderator
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    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    Law enforcement hyped the arrests as rounding up "monsters" who had sex with slaves forced to service a thousand men a year. In Kraft's case at least, it turns out he didn't. The 2 women he received services from aren't young and are established residents of Florida, not slaves shuttled around every couple of weeks.

    I wouldn't be surprised if prosecutors dismiss the case against Kraft. He can afford to dissect their tactics which would endanger their cases against other defendants. It will be hard for the prosecution to explain why they have video but not audio. The pretextual traffic stop to get a passenger's ID is also questionable.
     
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