New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft accused of soliciting sex, police say

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  1. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

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    Sounds like he was trying to "blow" it away or "hand" it away at least.
     
  2. Gamecock14

    Gamecock14 Member+

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    I do wonder what if any fine will MLS dole out especially if the NFL goes for the 500k max for owners and misconduct.

    Personally, I think fining a sports owner is stupid in today's pro leagues. A speed camera in Montgomery County or DC does more damage to my finances than a half million / million dollar fine does to an an American pro sports owner.

    I just hope no one filed an FOIA for the video.
     
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  3. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

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    I had allowed myself not to think of this. I hate you.
     
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  4. Kejsare

    Kejsare Member+

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    At the moment whatever Florida equivalent of FOIA exemption b(7) is going to prevent you (the law enforcement exemption). However, now that the indictments are out, it is up to the prosecutors' office whether they want to release it. I'm sure Bob Kraft (or his cadre of lawyers) wants it settled before a trial so the evidence isn't made public in court.
     
  5. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    Finally. If Kraft is forced out, the last obstacle to a Fall-Spring, Pro-Rel balanced league format will be gone.
     
  6. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    Shot



    Chaser

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  7. Honore de Ballsac

    Oct 28, 2005
    France.
    Fanfare for the Common Man.

    We all thought it was cool when Thierry Henry took the PATH train to Red Bull arena.
     
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  8. KMJvet

    KMJvet BigSoccer Supporter

    May 26, 2001
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    He knew the women were trafficked. He should be forced to sell the Revs...and the Patriots.
     
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  9. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    Yes but then the franchise likely goes to Bellichick under the organization's well-known tanistry law and the Revs might start winning again so let's hold off on any bold calls.
     
  10. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Huh?
     
  11. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Huh?
     
  12. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    This thread is filled with absolutely batshit insane calls and demands and I thought, "why can't I join in?"
     
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  13. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    Source/link?
     
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  14. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
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    Brummie's just engaging in wishful thinking. C'mon, we all know that it is really Bob Kraft conspiring with Don Garber to hack into the USSF AGM voting machines to put the kibosh on the NY Cosmos grand plan for world domination!

    But look on the bright side, at leas't hes not acting like a grammer natsee!
     
  15. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
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    I thought the Cosmos sold their grand plan for world domination to David Beckham for a mess of pottage...
     
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  16. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
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    #66 Bill Archer, Feb 25, 2019
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    If this is true, I absolutely agree.

    Proving it, however, is most likely impossible.

    You and I might think that it's pretty obvious,or that a decent man - even an old, rich, shithead - would have figured it out, but it's probably irrelevant to ask a guy like him who is looking for a greasy, low-rent 50 dollar hand job to spend 10 seconds wondering if the non-English speaking woman who is jerking his Johnson is oppressed, abused and exploited.

    In one way or another, she unquestionably is, and he just didn't give a shit.

    Bottom line though, he knowingly participated in a criminal enterprise. He may not have know the full extent of said enterprise, but the law usually doesn't draw that distinction. "I stole a bag out of a car and only later discovered it contained five pounds of heroin" does not get you much leeway.

    Neither does "I paid a woman for a sex act and only later discovered that she was being held against her will, so I should only get a 50 buck fine".

    In life, you pays your money and you takes your chances.
     
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  17. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    Um, that's pretty much EXACTLY how the law works. Absent proof he knew or should have known they were virtually slaves, he'll get the same punishment as any other john.
     
  18. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

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    Bingo, and even if they did he'd just sell the teams to his son. Not the same situation but when the NFL forced Kroenke to sell the Nuggets and Avs so he could buy the Rams he sold them to his son.
     
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  19. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

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    Kraft will just say he paid for the regular massage and the happy ending was a pleasant surprise, not something he paid for. It will be hard to prove otherwise.
     
  20. Mike Marshall

    Mike Marshall Member+

    Feb 16, 2000
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    "Major League Soccer takes seriously the exploitation of disadvantaged people around the world. This message is brought to you by Adidas, official sponsor of Major League Soccer."

    Seriously... Jimmy Haslem ran a company that was fined $90 million by the Federal Government for committing fraud, and the league welcomed him with open arms.
     
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  21. tomásbernal

    tomásbernal Member+

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    Something tells me that if you rounded up 24 random men receiving services thus in strip malls in Florida, you wouldn't normally find 3 billionaires among them. Given that, the police probably know what they're doing and have some good video that corroborates what they're charging.
     
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  22. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

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    Specifically the reports are they have video of him receiving (both manually and orally) on two different occasions in a ~24 hour period. Kind of hard to claim "I didn't know what was going to happen" when you back a second time within a day...
     
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  23. tomásbernal

    tomásbernal Member+

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    I heard a radio interview today with the sheriff in charge of the operation, who actually devised it and decided, nobly (and ********ing logically, ffs), that instead of doing a standard operation and arrest the workers, they'd instead target the operators and the Johns. He also said that he believes whole-heartedly that the Johns bear the biggest blame for the human trafficking involved, and that they knew that these women were held in servitude.
     
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  24. tomásbernal

    tomásbernal Member+

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    Also, that's....wow. I don't know that any amount of money can keep that video from being shown as evidence in a very public trial.
     
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  25. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    VB, VA
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    You’re silly.
     

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