new Belmont Raceway stadium proposal

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  1. chapka

    chapka Member+

    May 18, 2004
    Haverford, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Belmont isn't ideal, certainly, because the subway doesn't go there. But they do pack in about 100,000 people for Stakes day every year, a good chunk of whom take the LIRR there and back, and the rest of whom drive, so it's silly to say it would be inaccessible for a 25,000 to 35,000 seat soccer game.

    I've been there for a couple of full-capacity stakes days, both on the train from the city and driving, and it took a while to get out but not any longer than it would take to get back to Brooklyn from the Meadowlands on the bus. And a soccer crowd would probably be a third of the size of a Belmont Stakes crowd.

    The idea that they wouldn't be able to attract fans because of the $13 fare doesn't seem very plausible, either, given that plenty of MLS fans in other parts of the country pay $15-$20 every game for parking.

    This reminds me of the old plan to build a MetroStars stadium at Aqueduct. If I remember right, the plan was that the stands would roll forward over the track on soccer days, and roll back to reveal the track on race days, with the soccer field in the racing infield.
     
  2. Metrogo

    Metrogo Member

    Apr 6, 1999
    Washington Hghts NY
    They can even do game day discounts. But no, don't want it at Belmont, but I would go for sure.
     
  3. Stan Collins

    Stan Collins Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Silver Spring, MD
    Could run a ~12-minute shuttle from Jamaica, too.

    Definitely a weaker option than Queens if you actually have that choice. But if the choice was Belmont or nothing? Seems like a no brainer to me.
     
  4. Red Card

    Red Card Member+

    Mar 3, 1999
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agreed.
     
  5. napolisoccer

    napolisoccer Member

    Feb 20, 2005
    Napoli
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Absolutely right !!
     
  6. PCFC

    PCFC Member

    May 13, 2007
    NYC
    Club:
    Newry City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Looks like Belmont was looked at by MLS, not FCNY:
    http://www.bigapplesoccer.com/sections/mls2.php?article_id=29010

    "There is, however, another issue to consider – a stadium. The Cosmos had scouted various sites in the city, including near the Queensboro Bridge and in Brooklyn, according to sources, but nothing definite has evolved. MLS also has considered Belmont Park in Elmont, N.Y., in suburban Long Island, according to another source."
     
  7. Ed NYC Firm

    Ed NYC Firm Member

    May 14, 2000
    NY
    Club:
    Dundee FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland

    So a Non-NYC location is suddenly acceptable to you ?
     
  8. Ruict

    Ruict Member

    Oct 10, 2009
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agree or Disagree, Belmont option is way better than Randalls Is.
     
  9. PCFC

    PCFC Member

    May 13, 2007
    NYC
    Club:
    Newry City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would have to disagree...especially coming from a BB standpoint.
     
  10. napolisoccer

    napolisoccer Member

    Feb 20, 2005
    Napoli
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy

    If it is absolutely impossible to put a sss in NYC, then I think that this could also be a good solution. Better Long Island than NJ. But however I hope that at the end of the day we will have a soccer stdium in Queens !!!!
     
  11. Ruict

    Ruict Member

    Oct 10, 2009
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    BB ? what is that ?

    Thanks.
     
  12. Metrogo

    Metrogo Member

    Apr 6, 1999
    Washington Hghts NY
    BB stands for "Borough Boys", you know, sort of the MLS2NYC counterpart to the ESC, except, you know, the BBs actually do and achieve things off of soccer web sites.
     
  13. metros11

    metros11 Member

    Sep 11, 1999
    Highlands of NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And there you have it....

    Still butt hurt over that chant incident?
     
  14. Metrogo

    Metrogo Member

    Apr 6, 1999
    Washington Hghts NY
    I was never hurt, just angry that a bunch of dorks put their petty, honeycomb hideout concerns ahead of country.

    8675309!
     
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  15. adrenaline11

    adrenaline11 Member+

    Jul 29, 2010
    Toronto
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Jenny, Jenny, who can I turn to?
     
  16. Metrogo

    Metrogo Member

    Apr 6, 1999
    Washington Hghts NY
    Don't forget to snap your fingers when you sing it!
     
  17. EL YANQUI

    EL YANQUI Red Card

    Jun 3, 2011
    ACEVEDO DIAZ Y CHANA
    Club:
    Club Nacional de Football
    Nat'l Team:
    Uruguay
    Energy Drink "resonsible for bastardizing the image and brand of the team to suit their own image and agenda." Its only fitting that you lost to the LA Galaxy.....
     
  18. QueensNick

    QueensNick Member

    Jul 19, 2007
    New York City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    True story - i once saw a guy i knew from HS at a sporting event - nice guy but not the kind i wanted to hang out with. We were all there and he was hounding me for my number to get together.

    I gave him 867 5309 and the ********ing hoople had no clue. He didnt even realize the 3 rows in front of and behind me pissing their pants. He was like "Great man, lets grab a beer"
     
  19. metros11

    metros11 Member

    Sep 11, 1999
    Highlands of NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What chant was it you were trying to start? 'A rope, a tree, to hang the referee'? Patriotic.
     
  20. Metrogo

    Metrogo Member

    Apr 6, 1999
    Washington Hghts NY
    I don't start chants. Not my bag.

    But racist chants like that? That sounds like an ESC special to me. The BBs and AONYC have been outspoken about some of the racist chants we've been hearing lately. That shit don't fly with us.
     
  21. Ruict

    Ruict Member

    Oct 10, 2009
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lets get back to the topic already.
     
  22. QueensNick

    QueensNick Member

    Jul 19, 2007
    New York City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not at all - this chant wouldn't fly with any of our members.

    We arent fans of chants like that, nor would we start anything that can even remotely be misconstrued as racist.

    Our chants are soccer based, we don't call anyone a 3rd world country, we actually have confronted people who try to start that. We dont tell a specific cultural group to go back to X Neighborhood. We keep our chants to the soccer field.

    We might say shit like "feck X national team" but that is purely based on Soccer.

    Shit, we have in the past allowed Mexican Americans into our parties to watch the matches and even defended them when fans tried to start shit.


    But to the point stated above - this needs to get back on topic now because its not even getting to a pissing match, its starting to get to a very sensitive area. I had to chime in though for the record because as a group we have 0 tolerance for racism, fascism, homophobia, sexism etc.

    Lets talk about Belmont.
     
  23. Metrogo

    Metrogo Member

    Apr 6, 1999
    Washington Hghts NY
    Thanks man.
     
  24. NorthbankHighbury

    Jan 25, 2009
    Liberty, MO
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    A rope, a tree .. is racist?

    As a non-white, racially sensitive dude I gotta say I'm not really seeing it. :D
     
  25. NYC_COSMOS

    NYC_COSMOS BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 13, 2007
    Queens, NY
    Club:
    CA Vélez Sársfield
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Unless of course the referee was non white, then it would be overtly racist and to a certain extent almost criminal.
     

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