Neverending Story 3: The Ongoing Brexit Thread

Sex Arse is one of Soft Cell's more obscure songs.

 

He's back

 

Wow. British gouvernment tells 41 epileptic kids and their parents they can feck off, as these can't get their life saving medicinal cannabis oil from the Netherlands anymore under the current ruling given by that gouvernment.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-son-nine-suffers-rare-form-epilepsy-die.html
Mother fears son, nine, who suffers from rare form of epilepsy could die because his medical cannabis can't be imported from the Netherlands due to Brexit

• Hannah Deacon learned of change in policy less than two weeks before Brexit
• Bedrolite oil previously imported from the Netherlands against UK prescriptions
• This is no longer possible as UK prescriptions no longer recognised in EU states

By Faith Ridler For Mailonline

Published: 13:44 GMT, 6 January 2021 | Updated: 15:08 GMT, 6 January 2021

 

Pro-Brexit campaign Leave.EU relocates to Waterford, Ireland

Should've thought this through, eh lads?

 

1348256421331275776 is not a valid tweet id

 

Isn't that the EU not recognising UK prescriptions? That's what it says.

Mind you, that's the hate-mail so it's probably bolllocks and is probably intended as some sort of attack on the EU... that's their usual shtick.

 

Of course, you can view that story from two angles. One is that they're being forced to 'move' to the EU but the other way is that the 'move' consists of having a nameplate on a door somewhere which implies leaving the EU makes little real difference to that sort of enterprise.

 

This sounds not so good

The FT takes a fairly devastating tour of Britain’s new economic reality, in which all of the brexiteers’ lies—stretching from 2016 to last Christmas—have run out of string. https://t.co/XS68IqjBX3 pic.twitter.com/aA7Q1mvyIh

— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) January 22, 2021

 

As the details of the deal are made clearer there seems to be a pattern developing where some smaller companies, (the boss of which are typically conservative voters, as it happens), lose out but certain larger companies might actually gain in some respects....

https://www.theguardian.com/busines...edge-on-car-battery-tariffs-says-nissan-chief

Of course, having the necessary administrative 'infrastructure', they're better able to handle the extra paperwork and f there's a positive advantage in the origin rules for them to manufacture more in the UK, that's what they'll do. That advantage wouldn't be of benefit to smaller companies, of course.

But I think it's probably too early to make any predictions other than to observe, in general, that this is all a HUGE risk for absolutely no real benefit

 

That's why exports to places like Australia or even the US can't be compared when it takes weeks to get there for sea freight... about 2, IIRC, for the states. Maybe it's quicker now? Not sure.

 

Well, some media tbf. The information is all out there if people are interested.

I thought the grauniad and BBC coverage of Nissan's statements were reasonably even-handed and my understanding of the situation for Nissan was that it's been a net gain for the UK because of how the brexit agreement is structured.

It's not good coverage to detail problems in area such as fishing and finance without also covering that gain... that's simply biased reporting. Frankly that's been the problem with reporting for a few years now in this area.

In all honesty if they just stuck to telling us what's happening we'd be better off. As it is they seem to think they're cheerleaders for a 'side'.

Overall it's obvious to anyone paying attention that, as a country we'll lose out, (because of the ending of freedom of movement as much as anything). But that doesn't mean any positive stories should be censored.

That was the issue I had with coverage of the effects of globalisation on the poor where, if you happened to mention it wasn't an unalloyed good for some people in society, that meant you were on the same side as Farage and the tory right when that's just not true. It's perfectly possible to say there have been some negatives to the way globalisation, (including the internal market and customs union in the EU), has been implemented. Even if you say that, overall, we gain as a country.

I expect that from the hate-mail, scum, sexpress and torygraph, (in the opposite direction, of course).

I expect better from the 'serious' meeja

 

I'm not gonna have to explain again why population decrease is bad, am I.

 

Brexit starting to hit online shoppers hard ...

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-55734277
Ellie Huddleston, a 26-year-old Londoner, thought she would treat herself to some new work clothes in the January sales.

Having spotted a bargain, she placed an order for a coat and a number of blouses from two of her favourite clothes brands based in Europe.

But both deliveries were delayed, held up in customs checks for at least a week, she says.
She was surprised when she then received a text from courier company DPD, containing a link asking her to pay £58 in customs duties, VAT and additional charges for her £180 order.

 

As the article says...

A government spokesperson said: "The new VAT model ensures goods from EU and non-EU countries are treated in the same way and that UK businesses are not disadvantaged by competition from VAT-free imports.​

That last bit has been an issue for a long time, more so with the rise of Ebay and Amazon.

 

Well, his dad is an idiot, same as him but population density is a concern if it runs ahead of the ability of a country to make it's way in the world. With current diet's, (meat, essentially), the UK hasn't been able to feed itself since the mid 1800's, IIRC,

Our ability to expand our population would only be practical if we're working on the basis of an old colonialist mindset where we think everyone owes us a living. If that stops, (as it should), then we need to rethink our approach to an expanding population.

 

holy crap, you're a LOT older than I thought!

 

I'm not sure you've done it once, have you?

In any event, isn't a bit like Goldilocks and the 3 bears. It's not a matter of it being too small or too large. It needs to be just right

 

Sounds like he was raised in medieval England, when there was little international trade and land was divided among heirs. IIRC, I think there was a rise of per capita wealth in England back when the black death killed almost half the population. Ah, here it is....

 

please god, don't let this be the opening up of a "quality vs quantity" debate.

 

That was from a documentary I saw a while back which was discussing the possibility of world over-population and it's problems. As it is it seems to be levelling off and maybe, (in the short term at least) going the other way slightly.

It's not really an issue, tbh.

If anything it will probably make climate change more manageable.