Neverending Story 3: The Ongoing Brexit Thread

Using your legendary powers of prediction, no doubt

 

The more people who see you as the blustering fraud you are, the better.

 

Are you still butthurt because I refused to give a guarantee of electoral success for labour in the last UK GE?

Jesus, dude, get over yourself.

 

No, it's because everything you say might as well have been said by John Madden.

 

Maximus is no conservative and has no love for Boris.

 

There is every chance that Johnson knew exaclty what the response to his request for calls with Merkel and Macron would be, and it's simply a tactic designed to generate the exact anti-EU responses that came out, and allow him to say the EU forced us into No Deal.

 

Oh, I think that's more than likely.

He must have known, (assuming he's not completely puddle), that he was never going to get anywhere... that probably wasn't the point of the call.

I'm guessing he's positioning himself, (in his eyes), to be able to claim it's the other sides fault if it fails or that he's managed to seize victory from the jaws of defeat if he then caves in which is pretty much his signature move.

The thing is, Johnson's a weak and vacillating man and his premiership is as one would expect if they've been following the guy for an extended period. When choices become hard he sometimes passes it across to someone else or, if he HAS to make a difficult call, he takes the easy way out.

That's what happened when he was stuck between his hardline brexit people and the DUP... he caved in to people who had the whip-hand over him at the time, leading to this...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-55277736

We're busily erecting border controls between one part of the so-called 'United Kingdom' and another. I saw Michelle O'Neill interviewed the other day. She couldn't stop grinning... and who can blame her.

That was my point about him being made to look a fool... it makes it harder for him to do what he should do, (what he probably wants to do), and give way.

 

There is no chance. He acted like a moron and an oaf because he's a moron and a oaf. He's not playing 9 dimensional chess. He just has apologists making excuses for him, and they would have done so no matter what he did.

 

Ivan Rogers was on Sky News this morning...



As he says there. the whole point of brexit is to be able to diverge. Otherwise, why are you doing it? Of course, that's why it's a bloody stupid idea in the first place.

He's also asked there about the EU's view of Johnson. The thing I always think of when I think about him is this...

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ris-johnson-plot-attack-reporter-darius-guppy

“He went quite a way along the line of plotting to get me beat up. He didn’t dismiss it from what I gather … From reading the transcript, he was well prepared to help Guppy find my address and for Guppy to then get me assaulted.”

On the taped call, Guppy tells Johnson he wants to scare Collier by getting heavies to give him “a couple of black eyes” and a “cracked rib”. Appearing to indicate he is happy to help supply Collier’s address, Johnson is heard saying at the end of the call: “OK, Darry, I said I’ll do it. I’ll do it, don’t worry.”​

THAT is the guy who's our present PM

Anyway, going back to the current situation and the level playing field stuff, TLDR had a good vid on this stuff the other day...

 

Uh huh!

Back onto ignore you go

Maybe when you can learn to address the points at issue instead of 'playing the man' things might change. Until then, BYEEEE!!!

 

He also has people around him who, whilst they're not the brightest bulbs in the set, probably aren't as daft as he is.

 

No, they are awful. His only requirement for picking them was loyalty to the hardest of Brexits.

 

Yeah, I've heard him say that before. That's partly why I say that a lot of this stuff from Johnson is theatre for the rubes.

As he says, there obviously are issues around implementing and managing the LPF but that it's a political issue that needs to be sorted out 'philosophically', as much as anything, before the negotiators come up with anything in the way of practicalities.

 

Anyway, on we go...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55292890

The UK and EU have agreed to carry on post-Brexit trade talks after a call between leaders on Sunday.

In a joint statement, Boris Johnson and European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said it was "responsible at this point to go the extra mile".

The pair discussed "major unresolved topics" during their call.

But they agreed to tell negotiators to carry on talks in Brussels "to see whether an agreement can even at this late stage be reached".

Earlier this week, Mr Johnson and Mrs von der Leyen set a deadline of Sunday to decide whether to abandon negotiations or keep them going.

The PM is now holding a discussion with his cabinet to talk to them about the decision.​

That last bit is interesting because, don't forget, he STILL has to get this through parliament and it seems it's not just the hardliners that can get 'antsy' about things...

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...fury-over-johnsons-nationalist-no-deal-brexit

Boris Johnson faced a rising tide of anger from senior Tories and business leaders last night as he appeared ready to embrace a no-deal Brexit and prepared Royal Navy gunboats to defend UK fishing waters.

With the prime minister and the European commission president, Ursula von der Leyen, due to decide on Sunday whether to halt stalled talks and make the momentous decision to accept no deal – an outcome that would lead to tariffs and quotas on UK-EU trade and rising prices – Johnson’s handling of the final stage of negotiations has caused astonishment in his own party, and the EU.

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But the behaviour of the Johnson government drew outraged responses from pro-Remain Tory grandees. Also writing in today’s Observer, former deputy prime minister Michael Heseltine says of Brexit and the slide towards no deal: “This government will be – and should be – held responsible for quite simply the worst peacetime decision of modern times. I know personally of members of the cabinet who believe this as firmly as I do. I cannot understand their silence.”​

Of course, nobody ever accused tory MP's of having a backbone so maybe they'll start to cut up rough more vocally... but I wouldn't bet on it.

What an absolute fecking shambles

 

Let's try to be honest with each other. I'm not on your ignore list.

 

He can't help it....

 

The thing is, the entire country is either fatalist about this no-Deal OR swallowing the media narrative about negotiations. It's as though the world's greatest country just came to a grinding halt for no reason at all.

 

And in news that just proves how well things are going and that we don't need to panic...

Britons told not to stockpile food ahead of January

Well, I'm reassured

 

Don't try and sucker me in again. That's how you caught me last time and I won't get caught like that again.

Well... OK... I might, but not for a while.

 

I see you've been in a bit of a tussle!