PBP: Netherlands vs Germany: June 13 - Metalist Stadium [R]

Discussion in 'Group B - Netherlands, Denmark, Germany, Portugal' started by JaredSS07, Jun 12, 2012.

  1. pablo85

    pablo85 Member

    Jul 22, 2007
    Congratulations Germany with your deserved victory. I hope you'll win against Denmark and we win by 2 to Portugal. But on the other hand we have no business in a quarter final or so. And I don't see us winning at Portugal anyway with the level we're playing at the moment.
     
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  2. arthur d

    arthur d Member

    Oct 17, 2004
    Cambridge England
    Good luck against Portugal! I am sure Germany won't play for a draw against Denmark.
     
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  3. Lusankya

    Lusankya Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 14, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Also interesting:
    If Denmark wins by 1 goal against Germany and score at least 3 goals (e.g. winning 3:2, 4:3, 5:4 etc.) then Portugal are DEFINITELY out even if they win 10:0 against the Dutch.
     
  4. Laaura

    Laaura Member+

    Apr 2, 2009
    Manchester
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
  5. Bronck

    Bronck Member

    Jun 13, 2012
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Germany looked great, especially in the first half. Gomez was fantastic!
     
  6. Kampfschwein

    Kampfschwein Member

    Jan 3, 2011
    Club:
    Hertha BSC Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Rubbish.

    Germany doesn't care who else advances. It's all about Germany:

    a) making it into the knock-out stage (Germany hasn't yet made it)
    b) becoming group-winner
    c) building further momentum
     
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  7. Bronck

    Bronck Member

    Jun 13, 2012
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    +1, you always play to win.
     
  8. laasan

    laasan Member

    Apr 12, 2010
    I too find it amusing how many people have a problem with Germany being an immigrant country. and being at the very heart of Europe (only Russia has more neighbours than Germany, worldwide) that has always been the case, and has always been one of Germany's main strengths. which makes the whole nazi ideology even more idiotic than it already is.

    Mountbatten is already an English translation of the German original "Battenberg" (Berg - mountain)
     
  9. Lusankya

    Lusankya Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 14, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Because Kicker doesn't know the rules change:
    http://www.uefa.com/uefa/management/newsid=1800152.html

    d) If, after having applied criteria a) to c), two teams still have an equal ranking, criteria a) to c) are reapplied exclusively to the matches between the two teams in question to determine the final rankings of the two teams. If this procedure does not lead to a decision, criteria e) to i) apply in the order given;
     
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  10. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    FIFA/UEFA/whoever needs to keep this simple.. just use goal difference to decide who goes through, this head-to-head thing, especially in a three way tie creates too many complications. Especially, when a particular score will suit two teams playing and will eliminate another is just silly...
     
  11. Kampfschwein

    Kampfschwein Member

    Jan 3, 2011
    Club:
    Hertha BSC Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Isn't it Sachsen-Coburg-Gotha? Prince Albert's dynasty? Rather than Battenberg/Mountbatten?

    We used to export princes. Now we export footballers. Plenty of countries now have players "Made in Germany" on their team. Not that this hurts Germany much. Since those players generally wouldn't have made the German squad and understandably looked for other NT opportunities.
     
  12. JSS85

    JSS85 Member

    Sep 18, 2009
    Battenberg/Mountbatten is the titel of the mother of Queen Elizabeth's husband Prince Philip (on his fathers side he was prince of Greece and Denmark but had to resign those when he married Elizabeth). The dynasty of him actually would be of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg.
    The Windsors originally were Sachsen-Coburg-Gotha from Prince Albert thats correct. Tho before that they had a 'german' name too since from George I till Queen Victoria they were of Hanover.
     
  13. d3rd3vil

    d3rd3vil Member

    Jan 3, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Normally Germany never plays for a draw. So it will be victory or defeat against Denmark.
     
  14. nve2k

    nve2k Member

    Jun 19, 2004
    they have to win to guarantee advancing......if they play for a draw and concede a late goal and portugal wins they r probably out baring Goal difference.
     
  15. Kampfschwein

    Kampfschwein Member

    Jan 3, 2011
    Club:
    Hertha BSC Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Ah, so Prince Charles and his scions are officially Mountbattens? Not Windsors?

    BTW, just started watching the game with English commentary. Mark Lawrenson said about the two sides: "It's fair to say they absolutely hate each other."

    What nonsense! This ain't 1988. Clearly this BBC commentator is living in the past. Nowadays players and fans get on marvelously. It's an intense rivalry. But a friendly one nonetheless.
     
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  16. JSS85

    JSS85 Member

    Sep 18, 2009
    No officially not since the british parliament changed the law how that is handled (like they changed it to not allow catholics on the throne getting a dynasty of german origin on the english throne [instead of letting a catholic Stuart inherit] in the first place, the duke of Hanover was actually 40something in the line of succession after Queen Anne died but still the first protestant ;) ).
    Charles as the oldest son and Prince of Wales is a Windsor so is Princess Royal Anne as the oldest daughter, they recently changed the law again to allow all children who don't have 'royal titels' (Prince Andrew and Prince Edward) to use Mountbatten. Tho Charles did use on several occasions 'Mountbatten-Windsor'.

    And no I don't know this crap only because I can't stop myself watching anything 'Royal' ;). I studied history and find the change in successions and succession law today quite interessting (and I can't stop my self watchig anythign royal ;) jk )
     
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  17. arthur d

    arthur d Member

    Oct 17, 2004
    Cambridge England
    Mark Lawrenson is completely clueless about football outside England. It's a disgrace that the BBC employ people like him (and Alan Hansen, who is even worse).
     
  18. d3rd3vil

    d3rd3vil Member

    Jan 3, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    It wasnt just predictable. Spain is also very predictable they just know how to do it perfectly! Germany blocked everything Netherlands tried from midfield till offense. That was pretty good and I didnt expect that!
     
  19. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
  20. thepremierleague

    Mar 14, 2001
    London
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Sure, well Battenberg is an extremely famous English cake too! Very nice too :D

    A German style cake invented to celebrate Queen Victoria's granddaughter wedding.

    England is also an immigrant country. And the poster was English. So I found the comment strange knowing our history.
     
  21. Lascho

    Lascho Member+

    Sep 1, 2008
    Hannover, Germany
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
  22. federicobeatle

    Jun 12, 2012
    England
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I don't have a problem; on the contrary I am happy that, if they win, the winners will not be German German :sneaky:
     
  23. HSV-Jung

    HSV-Jung Member

    Jun 15, 2010
    Frankfurt
    Club:
    Hamburger SV
    Just to chime in on the Germany plays for a draw against Denmark matter: Löw explicitly stated that they very much want to win in order to take first in the group and be able to play the quarterfinal in Danzig/Gdansk, where their hotel is. Many people don't realize the distances between some of the destinations, but the long trips to the Ukraine can be quite wearying, plus all that moving around takes up a lot of time that can be spent better. I also can't imagine that Germany will underestimate the Danes after seeing how they played in the first two games and playing for a draw is always a recipe for disaster.

    Still hopes he lets Podolski sit out and gives Reus, Schürrle or Götze a chance. It's about time.
     
  24. Kampfschwein

    Kampfschwein Member

    Jan 3, 2011
    Club:
    Hertha BSC Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Yep. But knowing Löw, I'd settle for him subbing Schürrle in after 60-70 min.
     
  25. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Pretty much somes up the tournament for me. ::'(

    Still hoping for a miracle on Sunday, but with missed feelings. We really don't deserve to advance.
     

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