Netherlands vs Chile -The Battle for Top Spot-

Discussion in 'The Netherlands' started by DRB300, Jun 21, 2014.

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What is going to happen in this game?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2014.
  1. Chile will take no prisoners (+ 3 goal difference).

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  2. Chile will win by a small margin.

    5 vote(s)
    29.4%
  3. This game will end in a draw.

    5 vote(s)
    29.4%
  4. Netherlands will be able to win by a small margin.

    7 vote(s)
    41.2%
  5. Netherlands will do a Spain on Chile (+3 goal difference)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Regarding whether to play de Jong or not - he's likely to pick up a second Yellow card at some point along the way. I don't think he will make it to the semi-finals with a clean slate. If we beat Chile we will probably have the weakest opponent for the remainder of the tournament so that would be the best game for him to miss (assuming he gets a Yellow against Chile). I've always felt that it's pointless to manage in a tournament basing decisions on who is carrying a card going into a match (not the same as taking someone off who received a card in the match and you don't want the player sent off). de Jong is our best DM and has to start IMO.
     
  2. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Anyone know which colour shorts we'll be wearing??
     
  3. sonicdream

    sonicdream Member

    Sep 27, 2002
    West of Suez canal
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    ^ White I believe
     
  4. thatkid

    thatkid Member

    Jun 21, 2010
    Netherlands
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    We will be in full oranje!
     
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  5. DRB300

    DRB300 Member+

    Sep 21, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    We get a very inexperienced Ref for this game. Milking teams could have a field day with him. We already got 2 bullsh*t penalty's against us. Curious to see what nonsense we get to deal with this time.
     
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  6. DRB300

    DRB300 Member+

    Sep 21, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I don't understand why Netherlands vs Chile do not get the best ref in the world. What does FIFA want to prove?


    Anyway, let's first see how he does.
     
  7. DRB300

    DRB300 Member+

    Sep 21, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Am I overreacting if a thought crossed my mind that Blatter is trying to pull some strings to punish Netherlands for van Praag launching an attack on his position? The Dutch FA, backed by the English FA have started serious opposition against that fossil. Maybe that pissed him off. He said he never felt more offended in his life than when van Praag attacked him during a FIFA meeting speaking in public against Blatter.
     
  8. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Could cost us the world cup.

    It was stupid of vPraag, shouldve waited till after the WC
     
  9. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Blatter has no control over the match official assignments at all. If you are interested there is a very good section here on Big Soccer on the officiating during this WC with a lot of experienced referees posting HERE. They wanted to give the two guys who had not called any matches something to do so one gets our match and a Bahrain official gets Spain/Australia. the other two matches tomorrow both have UEFA officials.
     
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  10. DRB300

    DRB300 Member+

    Sep 21, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Kongolo, best striker we have:


     
  11. Hayaka

    Hayaka Member+

    Jun 21, 2009
    San Francisco North Bay, Bel Marin Keys
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark
    I'll say. The likely other teams in the foursome (to get to the semi-finals) for B1 are Mexico, Costa Rica and Ivory Coast. The likely others in the foursome for B2 are Brazil, Colombia and either Italy or Uruguay!
     
  12. richsavare

    richsavare Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jan 28, 2003
    New Jersey
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I must agree this is a travesty. Dutch were Fecked in 94 and 98 thanks to 3rd World refs.
     
  13. Blondo

    Blondo Member+

    Sep 21, 2013
    There's always 4-3-3

    480738540423512064 is not a valid tweet id
     
  14. Radu Razvan

    Radu Razvan Member+

    Mar 1, 2013
    Bucharest, Romania
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    But Huntelaar?
     
  15. DRB300

    DRB300 Member+

    Sep 21, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    We never tried this. Kuyt as left wing back. Then why taking Kongolo with us? Or Veltman and moving de Vrij and Vlaar a bit? Leaving Blind where he was.

    I don't know. If Sanchez comes inside, a right footed player like Kuyt is well able to defend. It's just that it is an experiment in a time we have to do a top performance.
     
  16. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    According to livescore.com Vidal will not start against Holland today.

    But I dont know reliable that site is
     
  17. Antario2

    Antario2 Member

    Jan 29, 2012
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
  18. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    This is the reality on paper.

    The reality in practice is that Blatter has already intervened in the past, and his predecessor also sent the ref committee home. Havelange in his own proper person did just that.

    Not sure whether Van Praag has anything to do with it. Might just be that they want the best and most likeable names to progress, without direct intervention.

    Mind you that in dictatorships direct orders are rarely handed out too, it is usually not that simple.
     
  19. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    Kuijt is pretty old. Will it work?
     
  20. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    The starting line up is all just conjecture until we see who comes out of the tunnel. It would not be above Van Gaal to play mind games with Chile and us.

    I won't be surprised if Vidal does not play today. he's carrying a Yellow card and just back from a knee injury.
     
  21. DRB300

    DRB300 Member+

    Sep 21, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    This is a vital game. I expect their best players to not only play, but battle as never before.
     
  22. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    He's not exactly the fastest guy in the world either. Add to that the fact Kuyt probably hasnt played leftback since he was 12 years old at Feyenoord C3, and I think vGaal has to be crazy to try this
     
  23. sonicdream

    sonicdream Member

    Sep 27, 2002
    West of Suez canal
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Holy moly - I've always respected Dirk but this sounds really risky.

    All this to happen in a match that in all likelihood will demonstrate exactly where we stand. Is the coaching staff approaching this as a free match, and not one to fight for first place ???
     
  24. MrOranjeBal

    MrOranjeBal Member

    Apr 7, 2009
    Club:
    AZ
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I don't know. Crazy or not, van Gaal must have a plan.
     

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