Neo-Nullification

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  1. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
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    Traditional nullification is the 1830ish attempt by South Carolina to secede because they didn’t like Jackson’s…tariff policy I think.

    One could argue that the 1950s and 1960s also represented nullification, and that’s a reasonable argument, but it wasn’t IMO really about the limits of state vs federal power. It was just about states wanting to maintain their apartheid systems.

    What’s going on now is more all encompassing. It has a veneer of reasonableness; states vs. the feds has been a live issue since, oh, 1775.

    But what is different now, IMO, is that states aren’t trying to argue their cases in any kind of normal fashion. They just ignore the Feds. Then if they have to sue they go to Abilene Texas and get a national injunction and then we wait months and months for the Supremes to be completely ridiculous, or to clear the lowest of bars.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/state-...will-ignore-illegal-biden-title-ix-revisions/

    Abbott from Texas is just saying nuh uh here. There’s been a lot of this, and while I understand why Team Biden has been so passive in dealing with these modern day Calhouns, I think it’s a mistake because the idea that the federal government is subservient to states is gaining wider and wider acceptance, which means it’s going to be a bigger fight every time one of these incidents passes without a response. Already the media is increasingly treating these disputes as normal when folks who know history know we’ve already litigated this.
     
  2. Auriaprottu

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    It's a new dawn, it's a new day. Smile, Hillary!
     
  3. Smurfquake

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    On the other hand, if Texas secedes, Biden will win easily.
     
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  4. Auriaprottu

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    We have to get the freedmen safely out of the slave states and relocated/rehoused at their current standard of living before letting those states secede.
     
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  5. song219

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    Or let Mexico take it back.
     
  6. Auriaprottu

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    That would be more beautiful than making John Wayne play Beecher in Oz
     
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  7. superdave

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    Preview of coming attractions: some other state will take Texas’ place soon enough.

    Thank you! Liberals who don’t care about LGBTQ people and POCs and religious minorities and feminists who live in red states vex me.
     
  8. Auriaprottu

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    Oh, I think Smurfquake is on the same page as I am, but just didn't type it out. I wasn't correcting him..
     
  9. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

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    They could become a commonwealth like Puerto Rico and be free of federal taxes like the OG Republicans would masterbate over but still would be covered by federal civil rights law and others so they won’t become feudal.
     
  10. Sounders78

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    Better everyone stays on the Titanic and dies rather than some survive by escaping in lifeboats! :confused:
     
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  11. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
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    Point of Order - It was never Mexico's to begin with...

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  12. superdave

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    Abbott pardoned the guy who went hunting for BLM protesters and killed one.
     
  13. Auriaprottu

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    Smile, Hillary!
     
  14. superdave

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    The Texas Republican Party has adopted the position that you have to win a majority of counties to win statewide office.

    As horrific as this is, it’s much, much worse than the electoral college. Imagine the US adopting this…it would be inevitable that one party would only represent old white people, because that coalition would dominate at least 26 states. And I know the inevitable joke, but no, not like today. Much, much worse.
     
  15. Sounders78

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    Rural communities should not be subject to the tyranny of the cities, but nonetheless should benefit from the taxes paid by the "urban elite"! :cautious:
     
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