Nelson Deossa

Yup, a miracle. Landed in the mexican graveyard and still managed to get to Spain.

An almost impossible task

 

cost as much as arias almost that is insane

 

That mexican tax

 

Crazy how we have multiple versions of guys on the national team who weren't really spotted or developed early. Munoz, Deossa, Rios and Diaz. It's a huge red flag for our league and development that we aren't able to spot these guys, could you imagine if they grew up in Spain? It also adds extra ceiling to Deossa and Rios, they've soaked up the small amount of time they've had at a high level and developed amazingly, and that can still have juice in the tank.

 

its rly annoying, and I know its happening right now somewhere all over again

 

Think of how many guys fell through the cracks, or could have been top players but weren't getting quality training and end up mediocre. These guys are just really good and determined and mentality beasts but a ton of guys could be that if in the right environment. Our scouting, development and pipeline (and agents) are pretty horrendous but we get bailed out because Colombians by nature are resilient and creative. It's a system wide problem for Colombia tbh, such talent and creativity but our state is a mess and plagued by disorganization and corruption yet we still pump out amazing talent in everything.

 

Didn’t junior pass on Luis Muriel because he was too small?

bad scouting and youth coaches + agents

they just want corre locos

 

In hindsight yes we should have a lot more players in Europe rosters but let's not forget that it's a big financial risk to take on players from less competitive leagues (FPC included). I would also add that crap trickles down. When you have clubs that have little means (or refuse to spend) to hire top coaches, top trainers and then are surrounded by 'alumbance chasing' agents that are just looking for the quickest ROI even if it means cratering a player's development, then you get what you get.

Finally, let's not forget the drought in WCups missed just this decade alone (2002, 2006, 2010, 2022). You're talking about the biggest marketing stage in the world and we've had generations of good players unable to showcase their talents at the top stage. Just look at the impact made at CWC.

Similar can be said for SA club tournaments where it's all but likely that every year it's dominated by the same Argie + Brazil clubs eventually reaching the final four.
What we see with Deossa, Cucho, Duran is more of the exception than the rule of common sense transactions. The best route to Euro clubs for Colombian professionals is still going to go thru Brazil + Argentina and that's mot changing anytime soon.

 

you're missing his point

he's just talking about player development. Players in colombia debut very late for dumb reasons that can be avoided.

the rest of the world will debut a player at 19/20 no problem, meanwhile in Colombia players at that age are never quite ready to even play at the top division,.

 

Yeah although It's great to have more players in Europe I just want our league and clubs to get their shit together and at the bare minimum get the best talent onto the field and into the system. It's just a a huge amount of rot in our clubs that we can miss players of this quality and not give them a chance, these are huge pay days for the clubs and for our national team and we are instead playing Rodallega and other washed players rather than focusing on scouting and developing youth players.

 

So many own goals, the league and federation are so poorly run.

 

Yea and the new guy who runs it wants to put even less teams

I know the Mexican dude with 0 coaching experience won with nacional but still new coaches need to be given shots. Especially colombian ones who played abroad

hope with the wrexham/nexaca owners shit changes a bit with the league. We need big dogs in it. Other than nacional and junior. Junior is terribly run and dep cali turning to shit really really hurt the league and our youth nts

 

It's a system wide problem starting from he federation. Good coaches will only paper over cracks, it's like Manchester United, they've been lapped by so many clubs because they have no structure behind the manager and the club has been run internally like shit. Envigado seems like the only club who gets it and is playing the long game developing and spotting youngsters, really I think at some point smart groups will start buying up South American clubs like they've been doing now all over Europe in the last years. Data driven smart development in Colombia with a long view and putting in place good infrastructure and coaches would crush it.

 

Betis has a pretty good YT channel. It airs the friendlies of the club.

 

Pellegrini says Deossa isn't ready to feature yet, looks like he's a little beat up physically. I imagine it has to do with the amount of football he's been playing

 

will he debut with Betis or the SNT earlier?

Bolivia game is Sept 4th

 

I don't see him getting called up

 

its the coaches ass... and last 2 games last two chances....

call up 100 people ******** call up half the domestic league too

just find a way to beat Bolivia at home 1-0 or better

at this point people don't think we can beat a 5 man team

 

He was lucky, they bought him injured but passed medical, hopefully he can play in a week or two.

 

I'm worried about all of the 3 CWC guys who moved to Europe. They've played a ton of soccer, especially Rios and Arias and they really won't get a break until the World Cup, so any break and time off is probably a blessing in the long run, but obviously we need to qualify first.