need help with english socer terms

Discussion in 'The Beautiful Game' started by smeeko, Jun 19, 2003.

  1. smeeko

    smeeko New Member

    Jun 19, 2003
    colorado, us
    Hello,
    I am a translator who is working on a "soccer" translation from Italian into English.
    I am looking for help in translating some terms into english. Can you help please?
    - do you say: "kick a free-kick"? what's a better verb for that? "take"?
    - how about a "throw-in"? Complete a throw-in?
    - is the "end-line" the line at the end of the field or is known with another term?
    - how do you refer to a play that is "fancy, elegant with a lot of passes"?
    - is "building/setup of a play (action)" a good slang for soccer?
    - is there a good slang term for "incredible mistake"?

    more may come. Is there a good english soccer dictionary online, so I don't have to bug you guys anymore?

    Thanks

    enrico in Colorado
     
  2. AvidSinger

    AvidSinger New Member

    Sep 6, 2002
    Massachusetts
    Take a free kick is what i use.

    Take a throw in. Throw the ball in. Throw it in.

    Either end line or byline is acceptable. In the US, some people might call it the goal line.

    "fancy, elegant, with a lot of passes"

    "Build-up" is good.[/B][/QUOTE]

    Gaffe. Blunder. Mess-up. Goof.
     
  3. miko

    miko New Member

    Jun 5, 2003
    Ireland
    If they miss an easy chance people often say,"he missed a sitter!"
     
  4. rksehga

    rksehga New Member

    Aug 13, 2002
    nyc
    Enrico, if a guy makes a mistake, like say Christian Vieri's miss in they dying minutes of regualtion against Korea,

    we would say in English "Oh, Vieri sucks balls"

    or

    "Vieri apparenly likes it in the pooper"

    Your Welcome, rishi
     
  5. Mark424

    Mark424 New Member

    May 7, 2003
    Los Angeles
    Enrico,

    I like the term "flowing play."


    p.s. Christian Vieri is the only Italy player that showed up for that game ... so pi$$ off to anyone who is going to bad mouth him!
     
  6. smeeko

    smeeko New Member

    Jun 19, 2003
    colorado, us
    Thanks

    Thanks guys,
    great help.
    I am sure I will have more in the next couple of days.

    Any soccer dictionary available online?

    Enrico in CO
     
  7. Wolves_67

    Wolves_67 Member

    Oct 27, 2002
    Pasadena, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's better to put these into sentences to be clear. For example:
    "Cobi is standing over the ball about to take a free kick." (future tense).
    "Cobi takes the free kick... it goes wide."
    It depends on how it's used.
    Saying "the build-up for that goal was great (fantastic)." is common.
    Often the word "controls" or "controlled" is used when a pass or throw-in is completed.
    "Cobi Jones controls the throw-in from Sasha."
    or "settles the ball"..
    This could go on all day. :)
     
  8. MikeyPez

    MikeyPez New Member

    Jun 19, 2003
    Jersey City NJ
    For a mistake, theres lots, although suck balls is not very polite. Blunder, error, a bonehead play, list goes on and on.

    take a free kick, put the ball in play,

    throw in, toss in, heaves the ball in

    end line is goal line, or use americal foot ball term the end zone

    fancy passes could say: with precision and grace smeeko send the ball to john
    with a nice touch john launches the ball to the goal

    build & set up are good, create you can use or john was the architect of a faboulus
     
  9. broken paste

    broken paste New Member

    Nov 5, 2002
    englewood
    yeah, tim hankinson
     
  10. smeeko

    smeeko New Member

    Jun 19, 2003
    colorado, us
    A few more, please

    Here are a few more I need help with

    - how do you say when talking about the different "sections" of a team: like defense, attack?
    For examples: "the different (parts?) of the team are not playing well together tonight"

    -Can the visiting team be referred to as: "the away side" or "guests" or "visitors"?

    - is "maneuvering" OK talking about moving up the field?

    -is "play at grass level" ok? Or is there a slang for that?

    -"clearing play" can it be a play done to clear the area from a sudden attack?

    -"Team A is playing the central part of the field". Is that OK, or how else can the midfield be referenced as?

    Thanks a bunch again.

    Enrico in CO
     
  11. jotadia

    jotadia New Member

    Jun 21, 2001
    Miami
    Club:
    Atletico Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: A few more, please

     
  12. skipshady

    skipshady New Member

    Apr 26, 2001
    Orchard St, NYC
    Re: A few more, please

    - how do you say when talking about the different "sections" of a team: like defense, attack?
    For examples: "the different (parts?) of the team are not playing well together tonight"

    Units? I'm not sure.

    -Can the visiting team be referred to as: "the away side" or "guests" or "visitors"?
    Yes

    - is "maneuvering" OK talking about moving up the field?
    I think so, if you're talking about one player dribbling through the defense. I could be wrong, of course.

    -is "play at grass level" ok? Or is there a slang for that?
    Do you mean that there aren't many high balls? "Play on the ground" is used often.

    -"clearing play" can it be a play done to clear the area from a sudden attack?
    The kick itself is called a "clearance". A defender "clears" the ball.

    -"Team A is playing the central part of the field". Is that OK, or how else can the midfield be referenced as?
    "Middle of the field/park/pitch" or "center of the field/park/pitch" would be better.
     
  13. Turk from Pigs Eye

    Turk from Pigs Eye New Member

    Jun 14, 2002
    Pigs Eye (St. Paul),
    1. Defense, attack is OK. I think we often call out the positions, like strikers, midfield, fullbacks.

    2. Play at grass level is OK but I haven't heard it used. We say "playing to the feet" I think.

    3. We often say middle third of the field. We divide the field up into thirds. I forget exactly what we call the other two, perhaps defending third and attacking third.
     
  14. BadReligion

    BadReligion New Member

    Dec 26, 2002
    Washington, DC
    I sometimes enjoy using the term "Dangalicious" to refer to one with mad skill as such.
     
  15. chilistrider

    chilistrider Together We Rise

    May 9, 2002
    Thornton, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hi, Enrico. I'm an editor and I also happen to live in Colorado. If you want somebody to give your translation a final check when you're done, I'd be happy to help---presuming you're only doing an article or a chapter. I edit a lot of articles by writers who aren't native speakers of English.

    As for online dictionaries, try searching at www.google.com. I just did a quick search, and this one looks like it might be at least sort of helpful.

    Best of luck!
     
  16. michaec

    michaec Member

    Arsenal
    England
    May 24, 2001
    Essex
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Enrico,

    I'm from England, so I may have some different terms, but anyway, here goes:

    - do you say: "kick a free-kick"? what's a better verb for that? "take"?
    Take a free-kick is fine.

    - how about a "throw-in"? Complete a throw-in? Once more, you "take" a throw-in.

    - is the "end-line" the line at the end of the field or is known with another term? Can be called the goal-line or the dead-ball line

    - how do you refer to a play that is "fancy, elegant with a lot of passes"?
    Flowing play is a good one

    - is "building/setup of a play (action)" a good slang for soccer?
    "build-up" is the term usually used in England

    - is there a good slang term for "incredible mistake"?
    There are many of these depending on the situation:
    1. Any general mistake can be termed "a howler".
    2. Missing a good chance can be termed as "he missed a sitter" as said above. However, I personally like " he couldn't hit a donkey's arse with a banjo".

    - how do you say when talking about the different "sections" of a team: like defense, attack?
    For examples: "the different (parts?) of the team are not playing well together tonight"

    defence, midfield and attack.

    -Can the visiting team be referred to as: "the away side" or "guests" or "visitors"?
    "The away side" is most common. "The visiting team" is also used al lot.

    - is "maneuvering" OK talking about moving up the field? I'm not quite sure what you mean.
    If you mean a player running with the ball, you can say just that, or "dribbling" is fine too.
    If you mean the whole team moving up the field, the team is usually said to be "pushing up".

    -is "play at grass level" ok? Or is there a slang for that?"playing on the floor" or "playing on the deck"

    -"clearing play" can it be a play done to clear the area from a sudden attack? "clear(ing) the ball"

    -"Team A is playing the central part of the field". Is that OK, or how else can the midfield be referenced as? Referring to it as the midfield is fine as in "Team A have the ball in the midfield"

    If you want some fun slang terms, follow the link to learn "Ronglish". These are terms popularised by Ron Atkinson, a famous former manager in England who is now a TV commentator.
    http://www.dangerhere.com/ronglish/
    There is some great stuff here, things like "Hollywood ball" are fairly self-explanatory, but "Little eyebrows", "Curly finger" and "Amusement arcade" need a bit of explaining.
     
  17. MikeyPez

    MikeyPez New Member

    Jun 19, 2003
    Jersey City NJ
  18. smeeko

    smeeko New Member

    Jun 19, 2003
    colorado, us
    Great Help

    Great help everybody. Thanks.

    Here are a few more. I hope they are the last ones:

    -When the referee uses the "yellow-card" do you say:" The player receives a warning(??) "? or what is the exact phrase to use here?
    How is the yellow-card referred to?

    -When a free kick is taken: the defense build a "wall"(?) or is "barrier" a better term, in front of it?

    -Is "flanks" a good term to use for left and right sides of the field?

    Thanks again and have a great weekend everybody.

    Enrico in CO
     
  19. Mark424

    Mark424 New Member

    May 7, 2003
    Los Angeles
    Re: Great Help

    I think in most cases they just use "yellow card," "Booking," or "Caution." In Example: the Referee is going to show him a Yellow card ... the Referee is "Booking" him for that challenge.

    If it is a direct Red Card they tend to use the phrase: Straight Red Card. In Example: That'll be a straight Red Card to Marquez for his challenge on Jones.

    Good Luck ... glad to see the Donkeys are still flying!
     
  20. skipshady

    skipshady New Member

    Apr 26, 2001
    Orchard St, NYC
    Re: Great Help

    Wall is correct.

    Yes, as in "Roberto Carlos makes a run up the left flank" or "They are attacking up the flanks."

    Also for mistakes, when a goalkeeper goofs up mightily and allows a really bad goal, it's sometime referred to as a "howler".
     
  21. Femfa

    Femfa New Member

    Jun 3, 2002
    Los Angeles
    Are you translating into American english or British English?

    Because the terms are different depending on which you use.

    You might have even noticed the different advice and spellings in the responses posted here.

    A couple of examples,
    Brit: Flank
    American: Side

    Brit: Defence
    American: Defense

    It may be a minor difference, but it case it's important in any way, I wanted you to know
     
  22. chilistrider

    chilistrider Together We Rise

    May 9, 2002
    Thornton, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For cards, they often use the verb "to issue." During the game, the man on the P.A. will announce, "A yellow card has been issued to number 7, John Spencer, of the Colorado Rapids."
     
  23. smeeko

    smeeko New Member

    Jun 19, 2003
    colorado, us
    two more questions

    Guys,
    I have two more:

    > how do you say when a player complets a pass with the heel of his foot?

    > How do you say when a player jumps and does a flip in the air to hit the ball. Usually hits the ball in midair with his back facing the goal or the ground.

    Thanks again
     
  24. chilistrider

    chilistrider Together We Rise

    May 9, 2002
    Thornton, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think those would be "to make a back-heel pass" and "to do a bicycle kick." You might want to wait for a second opinion though.
     
  25. Naco

    Naco Member

    Aug 5, 2001
    I'm guessing you hear that a lot? :D

    Sean
     

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