Nebraska politicians want big 12 helmetball players paid?

Discussion in 'Other Sports' started by g4m, Feb 12, 2003.

  1. g4m

    g4m New Member

    Oct 28, 2000
    New Jersey
    http://espn.go.com/ncf/news/2003/0212/1507801.html

    noble idea...but i wonder how a law like that would stand up in appeals if passed and ratified by other states that own state schools? im sure the NCAA doesnt like the owners of one of their biggest money making schools lobbying for paid players

    which opens up the old debate...should some College Helmetball (basketball too, perhaps?) teams admit that they are semi-pro and pay their players or are scholarships enough?

    thoughts?
     
  2. FearM9

    FearM9 New Member

    Jul 14, 2000
    On my bike
    "Helmetball"??????

    We live in the USA. It's called football.
     
  3. Garcia

    Garcia Member

    Dec 14, 1999
    Castro Castro
    What I heard today was that the NCAA does not have to approve, just the conference. So, if the Big 12 wanted to play their players, they could vote and do it. Right?
     
  4. AndrewGK

    AndrewGK New Member

    Apr 12, 1999
    Dublin, Ohio, USA
    I refer to it as "pointyball" myself ;)
     
  5. whirlwind

    whirlwind New Member

    Apr 4, 2000
    Plymouth, MI, USA
    Here I thought it was "neanderball."

    And Nebraska players have been getting paid for a long time, they just want to make it legal.
     
  6. g4m

    g4m New Member

    Oct 28, 2000
    New Jersey
    yes whirlwind...in truth most D1A teams get their players paid under the table, even the sucky teams ...making it legal would allow for control of where the $ is coming from and prevent players from taking payment from undesiribles (gamblers, drug runners etc)

    I think it would be wise...but no school would go for it...they make too much money to share it with their athletes.
     
  7. appoo

    appoo Member+

    Jul 30, 2001
    USA
    did anybody else think about how this would affect recruiting? If The Big 12 is suddenly starts paying players a stipend (something College Football atheletes have been harping on ever since the BCS came in to effect) your gonna see tons of recruits going there. And its not neccasarily for a bad reason. As a college student I know what its like to live with little money, but these atheletes don't have the time to work a job, goto school, and play and train for their sports. They have even Less money then I do. Its a ruling that would completly change the landscape of college recruiting. Suddenly, Baylor is getting top 10 football recruiting classes
     
  8. whirlwind

    whirlwind New Member

    Apr 4, 2000
    Plymouth, MI, USA
    So, kid, we'll pay you a legit $5,000 to come to Baylor!

    Hey, kid, we'll still pay you $50,000 under the table to play for Miami!

    Which would you choose?
     
  9. tcmahoney

    tcmahoney New Member

    Feb 14, 1999
    Metronatural
  10. jmh30

    jmh30 New Member

    Apr 15, 2002
    Brooklyn, NY
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You know, there's this thing called a free college education that they're getting.

    Oh wait. Big 12 schools. Never mind about the education part. :rolleyes:
     
  11. jmeissen0

    jmeissen0 New Member

    Mar 31, 2001
    page 1078

    huh?


    most ncaa football progams lose money every year

    it takes a big time bowl to make money for most schools
     
  12. Lucid

    Lucid Member

    May 17, 1999
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    I heard today three other states in the conference have to pass this in order for Nebraska to be able to pay it's players. I doubt it'll happen, especially in this tough time economically. You gotta understand... Nebraska, is psycho about college football, and especially with Osbourn into politics now, it's getting out of hand up there. I don't think any other state in the Big XII will pass this. I gaurantee you neither Kansas or Missouri will, and that leaves Texas, Colorado, Iowa, Oklahoma, and Texas left, so 2 of those 5 have to pass it. Texas? Maybe, but I can't see any of the others passing this.

    Screw paying players, that's just absurd. THEY ARE ALREADY BEING PAID! It's called $100,000 worth of education! They get fed, clothed, books, tutored, sheltered, anything they need. They don't need anything extra to survive. It might not be luxerious lifestyle, but who of us in college are living luxeriously. The only thing you won't have provided for you is beer money, and if you play football you can goto any house party and get a free cup for the keg.

    Rather than paying these students, work out a deal where they can get loans, possibly based off of "future earnings" if they are good enough to possibly go pro. For those of you not good enough to get a full-ride to Nebraska and you will have to pay for everything while you are playing football? Sorry. If you are that good, you are good enough to get a full ride someplace else. Economic discrimination is something that has always been practiced in this country, it sucks but it's true, that's the bitch of living in a capitalistic country.

    We're forgetting the number one reason why we are in school, for an education. First we're students, then we're athletes, it's a privledge. While our athletics departments have long time been semi-pro institutions, we should never think about actually giving them that title by paying the students.
     
  13. WarrenWallace

    WarrenWallace Member+

    Mar 12, 1999
    Beer and Cheese
    But the athletes don't understand that the educational value.

    I don't believe that the players need to be paid, but to change the rules a bit. A player on scholarship is not allowed to have a job. That should be changed.
     
  14. Jeff

    Jeff Member

    Apr 14, 1999
    Alexandria, NOVA
    950 The Fan here in Denver talked about this a lot today. The midafternoon Ryan and the Mose show pissed all over Nebraska for two hours straight. Ironically, one caller from Nebraska stated that Osborne's against this but since he's in Congress, he doesn't vote in the state legislature.
     
  15. TeamUSA

    TeamUSA Member

    Nov 24, 1999
    Tianjin, China
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah it's a joke that the Nebraska state legislators, or a few of them, feel the players need to get paid. I did enjoy the argument about how then they would be able to better follow the money. Thankfully whirlwind set the story straight.

    They are students first, athletes second.

    However, there is still big time wiggle room here too. Can you just see the Nebraska starting linebacker who posted a big 650 on his SAT's getting a sweet position at a law firm while in school for $50,000/year for part time work and all he has to do is sit in an office and then go to the firms gym and work out with the senior partner who was an alum of the school? It's slippery.

    So, if it was up to me it's a no vote.
     

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