[NDR] USA/CAN lower divisions

Discussion in 'Houston Dynamo' started by newtex, Dec 18, 2013.

  1. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    The 2015 USL Pro league alignment is out. The 24 teams will be divided into two conferences: East and West. The NY Red Bulls Reserves is not official but the league is acting like it. Dayton has went on hiatus for at least a season. The schedule will mostly be within the conference with very little inter-conference play. Teams will play at least 22 0f 28 games intraconference with the remainder local rivalry extras which will also be mostly within the conference. The playoff format has not been revealed yet.

    http://www.recklesschallenge.net/uslpro-2015-conference-alignment-scheduling-format/

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    Also, USL Pro is going to apply for D2 status in 2017. Kind of surprising but it appears legit.
     
  2. *rey*

    *rey* Member+

    Feb 22, 2006
    Houston
    Not surprised at USLPro applying for D2. NASL floundering and not expanding has been shocking. Can't have a second division with 10 teams or whatever they'll have in 2015.
     
  3. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    NASL is adding at least one team (Jacksonville) in 2015 which would put them at 11 with another rumored to be starting for the 2nd half of the year (Los Angeles) so they could be at 12. I wouldn't hold my breath on Virginia or OK City actually starting in 2016 but they do seem to have some expansion interest.

    The LA team, if it happens, would mean that the NASL would be in compliance with the USSF requirements.
     
  4. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    The 2015 Roundup:

    NASL (11 teams)
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Carolina RailHawks
    FC Edmonton
    Fort Lauderdale Strikers
    Indy Eleven
    Jacksonville Armada
    Minnesota United
    New York Cosmos
    Ottawa Fury
    San Antonio Scorpions
    Tampa Bay Rowdies

    The Spring season will start on April 4 and consist of 10 games over 11 weeks.
    The Fall season will start on July 4 after a two weekend break. Teams will play 20 games over 18 weeks.
    Same playoffs as last year.

    USL PRO (24 teams)
    EAST
    Charleston Battery (Houston Dynamo)
    Charlotte Independence (Colorado Rapids
    FC Montreal
    Harrisburg City Islanders (Philadelphia Union)
    Louisville City (Orlando City SC)
    New York Red Bulls II
    Pittsburgh Riverhounds
    Richmond Kickers (DC United)
    Rochester Rhinos (New England Revolution)
    St. Louis FC (Chicago Fire)
    Toronto FC II
    Wilmington Hammerheads (New York City FC)
    WEST
    Arizona United (FC Dallas)
    Austin Aztex (Columbus Crew)
    Colorado Springs Switchbacks
    LA Galaxy II
    Oklahoma City Energy (Sporting Kansas City)
    Orange County Blues
    Portland Timbers 2
    Real Monarchs SLC
    Sacramento Republic (San Jose Earthquakes)
    Seattle Sounders FC 2
    Tulsa Roughnecks
    Whitecaps FC 2

    The season starts on March 21. Teams will play 28 games mostly within the conference.
    The top 4 teams in each conference make the playoffs.

    PDL (66 teams)
    I'm not going to list them all but here is the local division
    Southern Conference
    Mid South Division
    Houston Dutch Lions
    Laredo Heat
    Midland/Odessa Sockers
    Mississippi Brilla

    The season starts in May. Teams play 14 games mostly within their division.

    NPSL (65 teams)
    Again just the local division.
    South Region
    South Central Conference
    Corinthians FC of San Antonio
    Dallas City FC
    (Denton) Liverpool Warriors
    FC Wichita
    Fort Worth Vaqueros
    Houston Regals SCA
    Joplin Demize
    Tulsa Athletics
    The season starts in May. Teams will play 14 games.

    Texas Premier Soccer League (6 teams)
    Austin Real Cuauhtemoc
    (Connervale) Rancheros
    (Diboll) Texas Timbers
    Galveston Pirate SC
    Houston Hurricanes FC
    (Uvalde) Twin Cities FC
    2015 Expansion
    Lockhart Knights
    Temple United
    Celtic FC
    Their 10 game fall-winter regular season has just ended.
    They also have a Cup competition during the season and playoffs.
     
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  5. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Texas Premier Soccer League playoffs:

    February 28, 2015
    #1 Houston Hurricanes v. #4 Texas Timberz @ Sportsplex in League City, TX

    March 7, 2015
    #2 Austin Real Cuauhtemoc v. #3 Twin Cities @ McMaster Athletic Complex in Georgetown, TX

    The Final will be March 21 or 22.

    Austin won the Texas State Cup final this year beating Galveston Pirate, 4-2, on February 8.
     
  6. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    TPSL Semifinals
    February 28, 2015
    #1 Houston Hurricanes 2-1 #4 Texas Timberz

    March 7, 2015
    #2 Austin Real Cuauhtemoc 1-0 #3 Twin Cities

    TPSL FINAL
    Saturday, March 21
    Houston Hurricanes v. Austin Real Cuauhtemoc 7:00 pm @ Sportsplex in League City, TX
     
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  7. bford

    bford Member

    Houston Dynamo, Everton, USMNT
    Nov 30, 2004
    Houston, Texas
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thats about a 25 minute drive for me, so I'll go catch it that night. The field is directly off of I45.
     
  8. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    2016 Roundup:

    Lots of changes this year.

    NASL (11/12 teams)
    Carolina RailHawks
    FC Edmonton
    Fort Lauderdale Strikers
    Indy Eleven
    Jacksonville Armada
    Miami FC
    Minnesota United
    New York Cosmos
    Ottawa Fury
    Rayo OKC
    Tampa Bay Rowdies
    *Puerto Rico FC (starting play in the Fall season)

    The Spring season will start on April 2 and consist of 10 games over 11 weeks.
    The Fall season will start on July 2 after a two weekend break. Teams will play 22 games over 18 weeks.
    Same playoffs as last year.

    USL PRO (29 teams)
    EAST
    Bethlehem Steel (Philadelphia Union)
    Charleston Battery (Atlanta United)
    Charlotte Independence (Colorado Rapids)
    FC Cincinnati
    FC Montreal
    Harrisburg City Islanders
    Louisville City
    New York Red Bulls II
    Orlando City B
    Pittsburgh Riverhounds (Columbus Crew)
    Richmond Kickers (DC United)
    Rochester Rhinos (New England Revolution)
    Toronto FC II
    Wilmington Hammerheads (New York City FC)
    WEST
    Arizona United
    Colorado Springs Switchbacks
    LA Galaxy II
    Oklahoma City Energy (FC Dallas)
    Orange County Blues
    Portland Timbers 2
    Real Monarchs SLC
    Rio Grand Valley FC (Houston Dynamo)
    Sacramento Republic (San Jose Earthquakes)
    San Antonio
    St. Louis FC (Chicago Fire)
    Seattle Sounders FC 2
    Swope Park Rangers (Sporting Kansas City)
    Tulsa Roughnecks
    Whitecaps FC 2

    The season starts on March 26. Teams will play 30 games mostly within the conference.
    The top 8 teams in each conference make the playoffs.

    PDL (63 teams)
    I'm not going to list them all but here is the local division
    Southern Conference
    Mid South Division
    Albuquerque Sol
    Midland/Odessa Sockers
    Mississippi Brilla
    Oklahoma City Energy U23
    Springfield (MO) Synergy

    The season starts in May. Teams play 14 games mostly within their division.

    NPSL (80 teams)
    Again just the local division.
    South Region
    South Central Conference
    Corinthians FC of San Antonio
    Dallas City FC
    (Denton) Liverpool Warriors
    FC Wichita
    Fort Worth Vaqueros
    Houston Regals SCA
    Joplin Demize
    Little Rock Rangers
    Shreveport Rafters
    Tulsa Athletics

    The season starts in May. Teams will play 14 games.

    Texas Premier Soccer League (8 teams)
    Austin Lonestrikers
    Austin Real Cuauhtemoc
    Brownsville Bravos
    Dallas Clash
    Houston Hurricanes FC
    San Antonio Generals
    Temple United
    (Uvalde) Twin Cities FC

    Their 2015-16 season is almost over with just 7 games left. The playoffs will be in February.
     
  9. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    It has been rumored for a while but it looks likely that Canada will gets its own national pro league (minus the current MLS teams) in a year or two. Previous information was that this league would have teams in the CFL cities. There are some reports that Ottawa Fury since they share ownership with the Otttawa CFL ownership might jump ship from the NASL to this league. FC Edmonton is supposed against joining.

    http://www.thespec.com/news-story/6261090-canadian-pro-soccer-league-to-call-hamilton-home/

     
  10. CeltTexan

    CeltTexan Member+

    Sep 21, 2000
    Houston, TX USA
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If the Canadian FA was to get the MLS teams to switch over, then their league would get a tremendous shot in the arm. Talk about the rivalry cross over from all the hockey lore. Us in MLS would still see these teams in CCL play over the years and I really wouldn't miss any of them. I guess the 3 Pac NW teams could still compete for their Cascadia Cup over the long season even though it would not be via MLS regular season play.

    If Montreal, TFC and Vancouver stay in MLS then the CPL will probably grow and sustain it's fan base but it will be like the Wales PL to the EPL.
     
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  11. Tigereye

    Tigereye Member+

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    Aug 19, 2005
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    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    So the state's other hopeful MLS candidate unveiled the brand & badge tonight. Spurs Sports & Entertainment totally mailed it in with a generic name while forcing in a Spur on the badge, because it's their "heart" (aka moneymaker)

    If San Antonio FC make it to MLS, they'll fit in perfectly with FC Frisco lol.

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  12. Beavis Stiffler

    Beavis Stiffler Member+

    May 14, 2011
    Naranja With Attitude. Straight Outta Houston.
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    Philippines
    It looks like the USL team from Reno, Nevada want to capitalize on the town's birth year just like what the Dynamo attempted to do with the 1836 name.

    Reno USL Officially Named "Reno 1868 FC"


    http://www.ktvn.com/story/31319845/reno-usl-officially-named-reno-1868-fc

     
  13. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
    H-Town
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  14. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Lots of turmoil in NASL coming out this week.

    http://www.si.com/planet-futbol/201...tawa-fury-tampa-bay-rowdies-usl-bill-peterson

    http://www.fourfourtwo.com/us/news/teams-leaving-nasl-ottawa-tampa-bay-usl

    It doesn't look like the NASL will be moving up to Div. 1 as requested but the USL could be moving on up to Div. 2.

    Of course, it wouldn't surprise me if the USSF delays any decision until the NASL situation shakes out.
     
  15. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Announcements coming on new USL teams soon. It appears that the Tampa Bay Rowdies and Ottawa Fury will be officially announcing switches to the USL away from the NASL. There are twitter reports that a couple of other NASL teams are also considering it.
     
  16. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    http://www.rowdiessoccer.com/news/2016/10/25/tampa-bay-rowdies-announce-move-to-united-soccer-league

     
  17. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    #42 newtex, Oct 25, 2016
    Last edited: Oct 25, 2016
    http://www.uslsoccer.com/news_article/show/713356?referrer_id=2424366

    Tampa Bay and Ottawa make 31 teams for the USL in 2017. Reno was already in as an expansion team but Wilmington is going on hiatus.

    We'll see if the USL adds any more teams before next spring.

    The NASL is down to 10 teams at most with San Francisco joining next year. The dominoes are still falling so we'll have to wait and see where they wind up.
     
  18. Beavis Stiffler

    Beavis Stiffler Member+

    May 14, 2011
    Naranja With Attitude. Straight Outta Houston.
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    Philippines
    I think USL maybe needs to split into two separate leagues. One league with teams that have affiliation with MLS clubs and the other league with teams that are not affiliated with MLS clubs.
     
  19. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    1. The USL would lose a lot of the advantages it has if it splits. Having all the teams in one league means they can split things up geographically and reduce costs. There are already two almost completely separate conferences of 15 or 16 teams each. They have said that once they get to 36 teams they will split into three conferences.

    2. MLS teams said that they wanted to go this route so the reserve players would get meaningful games against independent teams and players. That's why they gave up on the Reserve League.

    3. The league standings don't show any particular advantage for affiliates vs. non-affiliates v. MLS2 teams. Two of the MLS2 teams made the final but there was a good mix of all three types of teams in the top 10 of the regular season standings: 3 MLS2 teams (counting RGVFC), 3 un-affiliated, and 4 affiliates.

    4. The affiliated teams really run the gamut of how many players they get from their MLS partner. When the Dynamo were affiliated with Charleston we only sent them 1 or 2 players. We loaned more players to NASL teams than that. Wilmington was the affiliate of New York City FC. The last player they sent to Wilmington was in July of 2015. None at all this year. Why should mere affiliation get teams separated out from non-affiliates?

    5. Right now this is the USL breakdown:

    Affiliates (6)
    Charleston Battery - Atlanta United
    OKC Energy - FC Dallas
    Pittsburgh Riverhounds - Columbus Crew
    Richmond Kickers - DC United
    Rochester Rhinos - New England Revolution
    Saint Louis FC - Chicago Fire

    Affiliates w/ Roster Managed (more or less) (3)
    Charlotte Independence - Colorado Rapids
    Reno 1868 - San Jose Earthquakes
    Rio Grande Valley - Houston Dynamo

    MLS Owned (11)
    Bethlehem Steel - Philadelphia Union
    FC Montreal - Montreal Impact
    LA Galaxy II - LA Galaxy
    NY Red Bulls II - NY Red Bulls
    Orlando City B - Orlando City
    Portland Timbers 2 - Portland Timbers
    Real Monarchs SLC - Real Salt Lake
    Seattle Sounders 2 - Seattle Sounders
    Swope Park Rangers - Sporting Kansas City
    Toronto FC II - Toronto FC
    Vancouver Whitecaps 2 - Vancouver Whitecaps

    Non-affiliated USL (11)
    Arizona United
    Colorado Springs Switchbacks
    FC Cincinnati
    Harrisburg City Islanders
    Louisville City
    Orange County Blues
    Ottawa Fury
    Sacramento Republic
    San Antonio FC
    Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Tulsa Roughnecks

    Two of those Non-affiliated will probably move into the first category since NYCFC and Minnesota do not have affiliates right now. There are also rumors that Harrisburg is on their way out of the league.

    That would make a very odd league with 8 of those last 11. That league would have many of the same problems as the NASL with teams spread out all over the place.
     
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  20. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Now word of trouble with the NY Cosmos.

    http://www.empireofsoccer.com/cosmos-in-crisis-late-pay-furloughs-cast-teams-future-in-doubt-55932/


    The article says that the NASL is having a Board of Governors meeting on Tuesday. The very future of the league is looking increasingly shaky.
     
  21. CeltTexan

    CeltTexan Member+

    Sep 21, 2000
    Houston, TX USA
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That owner resurrected the Cosmos logo, green n white colors and looked to show MLS how to run a professional association football club in the United States.
    Years on and look at how their club is doing.
    For us kids of the 70's and early 80's youth soccer boom, I recall the Cosmos brand and certainly Pele with great fondness. I do not witnessing this tarnishing of the Cosmos heritage if the team crashes n burns because the latest owner ran out of ideas, money or both.
     
  22. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/201...rovisional-division-ii-status-to-nasl-and-usl

    The NASL will apparently run with 8 teams to start:
    Indy Eleven
    North Carolina FC
    Puerto Rico FC
    Miami FC
    FC Edmonton
    San Francisco Deltas
    NY Cosmos (who seem to have new ownership contingent on the NASL staying D2)
    Jacksonville Armada (run by the league until they get new owners)

    The USL will have these teams in 2017. The alignment has not been officially announced:

    East (14 teams)
    Bethlehem Steel
    Charleston Battery
    Charlotte Independence
    FC Cincinnati
    Harrisburg City Islanders
    Louisville City
    NY Red Bull II
    Orlando City B
    Ottawa Fury (switched from NASL)
    Pittsburgh Riverhounds
    Richmond Kickers
    Rochester Rhinos
    Tampa Bay Rowdies (switched from NASL)
    Toronto FC II

    West (16 teams)
    Colorado Springs Switchbacks
    LA Galaxy II
    OKC Energy
    Orange County Blues
    Phoenix Rising (formerly Arizona United)
    Portland Timbers 2
    Real Monarchs SLC
    Reno 1868 (expansion)
    Rio Grande Valley FC
    Sacramento Republic
    Saint Louis FC
    San Antonio FC
    Seattle Sounders 2
    Swope Park Rangers
    Tulsa Roughnecks
    Vancouver Whitecaps 2

    *FC Montreal has been disbanded
    *Wilmington Hammerheads have dropped down to PDL
     
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  23. El Naranja

    El Naranja Member+

    Sep 5, 2006
    Alief
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Gutless of USSF
     
  24. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    http://www.uslsoccer.com/news_article/show/742742?referrer_id=2333971

    The 2017 USL alignment is out. They went with 15 teams in each conference. 16/14 would have made more sense to me.

    The season will start on March 24 and run 32 games in 30 weeks. No change in the playoffs.

    East (15 teams)
    Bethlehem Steel
    Charleston Battery
    Charlotte Independence
    FC Cincinnati
    Harrisburg City Islanders
    Louisville City
    NY Red Bull II
    Orlando City B
    Ottawa Fury (switched from NASL)
    Pittsburgh Riverhounds
    Richmond Kickers
    Rochester Rhinos
    Saint Louis FC
    Tampa Bay Rowdies (switched from NASL)
    Toronto FC II

    West (15 teams)
    Colorado Springs Switchbacks
    LA Galaxy II
    OKC Energy
    Orange County Blues
    Phoenix Rising (formerly Arizona United)
    Portland Timbers 2
    Real Monarchs SLC
    Reno 1868 (expansion)
    Rio Grande Valley FC
    Sacramento Republic
    San Antonio FC
    Seattle Sounders 2
    Swope Park Rangers
    Tulsa Roughnecks
    Vancouver Whitecaps 2
     
  25. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    2018 Roundup:

    NASL
    Looks dead. They are still claiming that they will have a 2018-2019 season starting in late summer but that seems unlikely.

    Canadian Premier League
    The start of this new league has been pushed back to 2019. They say they will have 8-10 teams to start but only two cities have been announced:
    Hamilton
    Winnipeg


    USL (33 teams)
    EAST
    Atlanta United 2
    Bethlehem Steel (Philadelphia Union)
    Charleston Battery
    Charlotte Independence (Colorado Rapids)
    FC Cincinnati
    Indy Eleven
    Louisville City
    Nashville SC
    New York Red Bulls II
    North Carolina FC
    Ottawa Fury (Montreal Impact)
    Penn FC
    Pittsburgh Riverhounds
    Richmond Kickers (DC United)
    Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Toronto FC II

    WEST
    Colorado Springs Switchbacks
    Fresno FC (Vancouver Whitecaps)
    LA Galaxy II
    Las Vegas Lights
    Oklahoma City Energy (FC Dallas)
    Orange County Blues (LAFC)
    Phoenix Rising
    Portland Timbers 2
    Real Monarchs SLC
    Reno 1868 (San Jose Earthquakes)
    Rio Grand Valley FC (Houston Dynamo)
    Sacramento Republic
    San Antonio (NYCFC)
    St. Louis FC (Chicago Fire)
    Seattle Sounders FC 2
    Swope Park Rangers (Sporting Kansas City)
    Tulsa Roughnecks (Chicago Fire)

    The season starts on March 16. Teams will play 34 games mostly within the conference.
    The top 8 teams in each conference make the playoffs.

    PDL (78 teams)
    I'm not going to list them all but here is the local division
    Southern Conference
    Mid South Division
    Brazos Valley Cavalry
    FC Cleburne
    Houston FC
    Mississippi Brilla
    Oklahoma City Energy U23
    Texas United

    The season starts in May. Teams play about 14 games mostly within their division.

    NPSL (95 teams)
    Again just the local division.
    South Region
    Lone Star Conference
    Fort Worth Vaqueros
    Houston Dutch Lions
    Katy 1895
    Laredo Heat
    Houston Regals
    Midland-Odessa FC
    Shreveport Rafters
    Tyler FC

    The season starts in May. Teams will play about 14 games.

    Texas Premier Soccer League (6 teams)
    Austin Real Cuauhtemoc
    FC Knights (Killeen, TX)
    Galveston Hurricanes
    Genova FC (San Antonio)
    Twin Cities FC (Eagle Pass, TX)
    Houston Fury

    I believe their 2017-18 season just ended. They may be in the playoffs. It is hard to tell from their website.
     
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