NCAA Tourney - who is in?

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  1. VCU Fan

    VCU Fan New Member

    Sep 4, 2002
    Sorry, double posted. Skip this A-Rod talk and get to the brackets!
  2. Preston North End

    Feb 17, 2000
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In My Very Humble Opinion...

    1. UCLA
    2. Maryland
    3. Notre Dame
    4. St. John's
    5. Wake Forest
    6. Virginia Commonwealth
    7. North Carolina
    8. Saint Louis

    Byes into Second Round
    9. Santa Clara
    10. CSU Northridge
    11. Indiana
    12. Old Dominion
    13. Oregon State
    14. UC Santa Barbara
    15. Michigan
    16. Coastal Carolina

    First Round Games: 11/21-22
    Game A: Florida International vs. Davidson
    Game B: Clemson vs. UCF
    Game C: Virginia Tech vs. Lafayette
    Game D: Hartwick vs. Binghampton
    Game E: Rutgers vs. Rhode Island
    Game F: Seton Hall vs. Saint Peter's
    Game G: Virginia vs. UConn
    Game H: Brown vs. Fairleigh Dickinson
    Game I: Michigan State vs. Western Michigan
    Game J: Cincinnati vs. Akron
    Game K: Creighton vs. UW Milwaukee
    Game L: Tulsa vs. Kentucky
    Game M: SMU vs. Missouri-Kansas City
    Game N: California vs. Portland
    Game O: Washington vs. Loyola Marymount
    Game P: San Diego vs. San Jose State

    Second Round Games: 11/26
    Third Round Games: 11/29-30
    Quarterfinal Games: 12/5-7
    College Cup Final Four: 12/12-12/14

    As far as the schedule, my understanding is the same as VCU Fan's.
  3. sheeplover

    sheeplover Member

    Sep 16, 2002
    Zidane's right foot

    That could be incredibly accurate I feel.

    You aren't a Preston North End fan are you?
  4. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Any Word yet?
  5. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here is from the site:

    "Dates and sites: Preliminary-round games will be at campus sites. First-round games will be November 21 or 22; second-round games will be November 26; third-round games will be November 29 or 30; and quarterfinal games will be December 5, 6 or 7. The Men's College Cup will be December 12 and 14 at Columbus Crew Stadium in Columbus, Ohio, hosted by Ohio State"

    It looks like there will not be neutral site games this year until the semi-final and final.
  6. nostradamus

    nostradamus New Member

    Oct 10, 2003
    in the US

    well done...Clemson in and ACC did not get 5 in...they got 6!! Did NC State shocked everyone??

    Probably Tarantini does not even know...
  7. nostradamus

    nostradamus New Member

    Oct 10, 2003
    in the US

    I am not a Clemson fan, but I got to say...very favorable two rounds. Virginia Tech and VCU? What are your thoughts?

    I long ride from SC to VA

    UVA got screwed. Setton Hall again on first round and then they play Wake. (of course if they win)

    Watch out for Indiana!

    Let the games begin! Anyone doing a "friendly" office pool?
  8. CG

    CG Member

    Jul 25, 2001
    UAB f'ed it up on Friday

    Obviously speculating but UAB might have gotten in even with a close loss to SLU on Friday but when they got trounced 5-1, I wasn't surprised when they missed out. Sucks considering they went unbeaten the 1st 8 games and I think only had 5 losses total(including two to SLU).
  9. gsterp

    gsterp Member+

    Jul 16, 2003
    College Park
    I don't think Clemson got a favorable draw at all, but then again, they don't deserve one. VT is a strong team this year, and VCU got jobbed in my opinion with only a 9 seed. I'd be shocked if Clemson made it to the Sweet 16.

    I think UVA got a great draw considering they're a .500 team. Somehow got a home game, and they've had Wake's number this year.

    I want to know how they came to these seeds. The top 3 I don't have too many problems with, but UNC at #4? Seems like it mattered just as much the name on the front of the jersey as the teams actual performance.

    UCLA has a tricky quarterfinal draw, with likely either Indiana or VCU coming their way, two of the hotter teams right now.

    Somewhat satisfied with Maryland's draw. ODU or NCSU in the second round could prove tricky. However, ODU has fallen apart. Really could do without having to go against NCSU, or more specifically Gonzalez, for a third time. Potential rematch in the quarters with St Louis from last year.

    Is it just me, or are there a ton of potential intraconference second round games?
  10. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am glad that Oakland got in. They had a great year.

    Thre UCF-FIU winner is going to C-SUN,that will be a trip.

    A Santa Clara- LMU match-up could be really interesting. LMU destroyed Canta Clara right after Santa Clara won the conference title,

    Kind of sad to see Costal Carolina with a potentail second round match-up with UNC.

    Maryland is going to have a very difficult game in its second round.
  11. KR

    KR New Member

    Jan 5, 2000
    Re: Big East according to Ray Reid

    Reid was correct - SIX Big East teams in the NCAA's.
  12. KR

    KR New Member

    Jan 5, 2000
    UVA lost 1-0 to Seton Hall on UVA's home field to start the season. This weekend's game will give us an idea how the team has progressed. Don't forget that Seton Hall has beaten UVA in post-season play in the past. This is one of the more interesting match-ups.
  13. Preston North End

    Feb 17, 2000
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My picks...

    UCLA over Tulsa
    CSU Northridge over FIU
    VCU over Virginia Tech
    Indiana over Cincinnati
    Notre Dame over UW-Milwaukee
    Michigan over Brown
    Loyola Marymount over Santa Clara
    North Carolina over Coastal Carolina
    Wake Forest over Virginia
    San Diego over Creighton
    UC Santa Barbara over California
    St. John's over Connecticut
    St. Louis over Fairleigh Dickinson
    Oregon State over Washington
    Akron over Rutgers
    Maryland over Old Dominion

    and then...

    UCLA over CSU Northridge
    VCU over Indiana
    Notre Dame over Michigan
    North Carolina over Loyola Marymount
    Wake Forest over San Diego
    UC Santa Barbara over St. John's
    St. Louis over Oregon State
    Maryland over Akron

    now the Quarters...

    UCLA over VCU
    Notre Dame over North Carolina
    Wake Forest over UC Santa Barbara
    Maryland over St. Louis


    UCLA over Notre Dame
    Maryland over Wake Forest

    The Final...

    UCLA over Maryland
  14. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  15. sheeplover

    sheeplover Member

    Sep 16, 2002
    Zidane's right foot

    Fear the Tigers....................

    UNC should not be the #4 seed but that got Clemson into the tournament.

    I see Maryland, Wake and UNC all choking before the Final Four.

    Notre Dame, St Johns and IU will be the strong teams early.
  16. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    Well, I got the Coastal getting a bye thing wrong!

    A .900 winning percentage doesn't get you a bye - man, that's a tough call.

    One thing that really jumps out at me is that the selection committee really put an emphasis on Strength of Schedule.

    Despiute a .500 record, UConn got in with a SoS in the Top Ten. At the same time, Hartwick was 13 games over .500 and didn't get in, laregely because their SoS was crap.

    Clemson, Seton Hall, Portland and Cal are also beneficiaries of the SoS emphais and I think a lack of a strong SoS is why Coastal didn't get a bye.

    Another thing that seems clear is that the tournament took into account the teams that lose players to the U20 team. Indiana is arguably the hottest team in college ball and they get drawn with UCLA in the quarters? Ouch.

    And Santa Clara WINS their conference and doesn't get a bye while LMU and San Diego finished BEHIND them in the WCC and were seeded.

    The only way I see explainin this is that IU loses Grabavoy and Moor while SCU loses Cochrane and Cronin.
  17. Timbers_Roberto

    Timbers_Roberto New Member

    Jul 27, 2002
    Portland, Oregon
    Portland did play a tough schedule and I'm a big fan of the Pilots program, but I don't think this year's squad really deserves a bid. Maybe they'll prove me wrong against Oregon State, but I think they might be one and done this year.

    FIXXXER New Member

    Feb 16, 2001
    Hotlanta, GA
    First time for everything, huh?

    How's that working wooden wristwatch coming along???
  19. Carolina

    Carolina Member

    Dec 6, 2000
    Anybody know if it's strickly seeding for determination of sites for Rounds 3 & 4? What about in the situation of two unseeded teams meeting?
  20. recsoc

    recsoc Member

    Oct 4, 2003
    Any team that wants to host has to put a bid in.
    Seeds are considered - but fans (read $$$) win out.
    Hosting a first round is no guarantee of hosting next weekend.
  21. lastword

    lastword New Member

    Sep 20, 2003
    College Park, MD
    strickly seeding?

    What is that?

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