NBA type fight coming to your field soon?

Discussion in 'Referee' started by jc508, Nov 20, 2004.

  1. Statesman

    Statesman New Member

    Sep 16, 2001
    The name says it all
    I don't live too far from Richmond myself and know that it has quite a few bad areas with high crime rates. Interestingly, it is also where one of our FIFA referees, Ricardo Valenzuela, lives and teaches.

    I am not sure what I find more depressing -- the fact that attacks like this happen at the U10 level, or that I am no longer surprised to hear of them. :(
     
  2. whitehound

    whitehound New Member

    Sep 6, 2004
    O'fallon Il
    Crowdie I am amazed that I live in a country where we have more murders in a single city then you have in your entire country but the focus immediately shifts to YOU when you point out the obvious.......We all drone on and on about how violent our society has become but we refuse to look at the reasons why or to accept blame. Thank you for inserting some perspective.
     
  3. david58

    david58 New Member

    Aug 29, 2003
    Oregon
    One more peep, at all, and you are banned for good.


    With regard to baseball, there is a history of argument between coach and umpire, bench jockeys (needling from the bench), and so forth. However, I think it is also due to the fact that we live in an increasingly impolite society, where the focus is on ME to the exclusion of all others. THAT is the base reason for the NBA brawl - the players cannot be shown disrespect by another player or a fan - egos run wild.
    So I do my best to contribute what little bit I can to make the game a fun one. It's not about me, or the game, but the kids (that's why I have begun coaching high school in the fall instead of refereeing then - I can impact 20+ kids over a solid 3-months).
     
  4. njref

    njref Member

    Mar 29, 2003
    New Jersey
    While some may dispute this, I find soccer parents relatively tame compared to baseball, basketball and hockey. Most parents don't know the game and therefore are more unsure of themselves. Baseball has history, basketball parents are also bad, but NOTHING compares to hockey parents, who are the MOST obnoxious of all. Fortunately, there is glass and a wall between the parents and the game for that sport.
     
  5. Crowdie

    Crowdie New Member

    Jan 23, 2003
    Auckland, New Zealand
    At some point you have to saw enough is enough :mad:

    * Supporters/officials/players bringing weapons of any kind to a game is not acceptable.
    * Verbal abuse of officials is not acceptable.
    * Verbal abuse of players is not acceptable.
    * Threats of violence against officials is not acceptable.
    * Threats of violence against players is not acceptable.
    * Racism, in all forms, in not acceptable.

    As referees we have to stop this type of behaviour:

    * To protect ourselves
    * To protect the players on the field
    * To protect the junior referee who has to officate next week with these idiots

    By accepting this type of behaviour you condone it so don't accept it.
     
  6. HoldenMan

    HoldenMan New Member

    Jun 18, 2004
    NSW, Australia
    U/10 match?

    That's 1 better than me - I had a spectator telling me he was going to slit my throat when I was AR at an U/11 match!!
     
  7. Crowdie

    Crowdie New Member

    Jan 23, 2003
    Auckland, New Zealand
    How much of an issue it is on your side of the pond? On our side we get the usual grief from players and that is easy to deal with. The biggest problem we seem to get is from parents who believe the sun shines out of their child's arse.
     
  8. HoldenMan

    HoldenMan New Member

    Jun 18, 2004
    NSW, Australia
    I'd say it's probably as much of an issue here as anywhere else. You hear the odd stories about referees being attacked or chased from fields, or confronted by parents - but it's usually youre typical ignorant parents mass dissenting from the sideline every time little johnny gets bumped. Parents definitely cause bigger problems than youth players, and the teams with the worst behaved parents also have the worst behaved youth players
     
  9. Jimjamesak

    Jimjamesak New Member

    May 3, 2003
    Anchorage Alaska
    Well I know in a couple of amateur league matches I've had some brawls in where the cops have been called. 2nd generation Mexicans playing Russian and Armenian immigrants can get pretty ugly.
     
  10. whitehound

    whitehound New Member

    Sep 6, 2004
    O'fallon Il
    Have to say that I think its a toss up between jamaicans and peruvians for me this year. It doesnt help that the league mixes in a few irish teams that play COMPLETELY different styles of football.
     
  11. Crowdie

    Crowdie New Member

    Jan 23, 2003
    Auckland, New Zealand
    What punishment was issued to the two teams?
     
  12. billf

    billf Member+

    May 22, 2001
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What's the difference? As a referee, you do your job and file the report. The rest of it is up to the competition. If they need your help, they'll call. Otherwise, why get worked up over what happens?
     
  13. Crowdie

    Crowdie New Member

    Jan 23, 2003
    Auckland, New Zealand
    Because you are trying to protect the next referee who is unlucky enough to draw those teams. If the teams are playing at a level where they only get experienced referees then you don't worry about it but if they are playing at a level where they may get an inexperienced or junior referee then what harm is there in spending ten minutes of your time checking?
     
  14. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Member+

    Club: Inter Miami
    Feb 11, 2002
    Jupiter, Fl.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At least a dozen years ago, my Men's team arrived for the game and were not able to get on the field due to yellow tape marking it as a crimescene. Seems that during an altercation in the previous game, a player retrieved a gun from his car. :(

    There was a freaking chalk outline drawn on the field.............
     
  15. Crowdie

    Crowdie New Member

    Jan 23, 2003
    Auckland, New Zealand
    Now is it just me or does some of this sound like people who shouldn't be playing football....

    Now what would have happened if the altercation had involved the referee in that game :(
     

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