Nations League Italia vs Portugal and U.S. Friendly

Discussion in 'Italy: National Teams' started by toronto_soccer, Nov 8, 2018.

  1. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    #226 falvo, Nov 20, 2018
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    So far, Pulisic (as far as Americans are concerned) at only 20 years of age is getting better on the club level but he has not done anything yet done much on the international stage. Same goes for the rest of the players on the USMNT.

    Sadly, no one can currently match a 2002 LAndy or even a Clint Mathis.
     
  2. Falc

    Falc Member+

    Jul 29, 2006
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    The Zemen three are a flop. Verratti gives some utility but none of them lived up to their hype.

    If Belloti gets back to form, he will do well under Mancini. Have to give our coach credit. He has been willing to sacrifice results to give young players a shot. It is not as if Ventura left the cupboard full but it is refreshing to finally see a new generation representing gli Azzurri.
     
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  3. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
  4. Nek Sanalet

    Nek Sanalet BigSoccer Yellow Card

    AC Milan
    Italy
    Dec 30, 2013
    NYC
    Club:
    AC Milan
    #229 Nek Sanalet, Nov 20, 2018
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    Just watched the game on repeat. Wow, I never thought I would be clamoring for Immobile again after the Portugal game, but Lasagna sucks so hard its ridiculous. I know I'm a Milan fan, but Cutrone would of buried two of those chances that Lasagna completely squandered.

    The defense and Sirigu had nothing to do. Chiesa played well for the first 45, while I was mostly unimpressed with Berardi other than his nice shot on goal. The midfield completely dominated again, with Sensi as the standout. Personally, I think De Sciglio should get the RB spot over Florenzi. Emerson did okay as well. I'm not a huge fan of Politano, but he was effective against tired US legs. I don't know what Falc is smoking, but Verratti played well today. He completely dictated (with Sensi) the pace of the game, and demolished the US midfield. Barella seemed a step slow (possibly tired after Saturday), but he contributed enough to keep our midfield dominant. Kean provided a spark as well.
     
  5. totti fan

    totti fan Red Card

    Jun 24, 2010
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Politano comes on in the 87th minute and scores. Geez I'm good.
     
  6. calabrese8

    calabrese8 Member+

    Feb 9, 2008
    Vancouver
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Politano > Polentone
     
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  7. totti fan

    totti fan Red Card

    Jun 24, 2010
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
  8. Calcio Pauly

    Calcio Pauly Member+

    Jun 17, 2012
    Club:
    AC Milan
    #233 Calcio Pauly, Nov 21, 2018
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    As good as that time you compared Pavoletti to Higuain based on his Serie B goal scoring stats? :D

    Falvo, where are the pagelle? You're slacking!!!

    velocità
    di Paolo Tomaselli, inviato a Genk

    Queste le pagelle dell’Italia.

    Barella: 5,5
    Meno intenso: l’abitudine a giocare ogni tre giorni andrà consolidata.

    Sensi: 6,5
    Per essere debuttante assoluto, se la cava bene da regista. E quando c’è da ramazzare palloni e caviglie non si tira indietro.

    Verratti: 6,5
    Anche lui amministra le energie, ne ha ancora per dare corda a Politano nella scalata al gol.

    Berardi: 5
    Deve accentrarsi per far salire Emerson, ma non sembra a suo agio tra le linee. E non incide.

    Lasagna: 4
    Fino a quattro anni fa era in D, qui è alla prima da titolare. Si fa vedere poco e in quel poco si divora due gol.

    Chiesa: 5,5
    unico sempre presente con Mancini in panchina: parte sparato, ma a salve.

    Grifo: 6,5
    Debuttare con la «10» non è facile, ma l’emigrante dell’Hoffenheim si muove con disinvoltura. E testa pure lui l’elasticità di Horvath con un gran tiro.

    Kean: 6
    Primo 2000 in azzurro, dà fisicità alle statistiche.

    Gagliardini: 6,5
    Tempismo e posizione nella sponda decisiva per il gol.

    Politano: 7
    Aveva segnato così in questo stadio anche col Sassuolo: si costruisce l’azione e la porta a termine con tecnica e velocità. E con l’aria di chi dice agli altri: ci voleva tanto a segnare?

    Mancini: 6
    Solo un’invenzione cancella la maledizione del gol. Ma anche l’Italia di riserva segue una certa idea di calcio. E il vento di fiducia può continuare a soffiare
     
  9. johnny6

    johnny6 Member+

    AC Milan
    Italy
    Jun 29, 2011
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I'll never understand the Verratti hate, I can't think of a single NT roster he wouldn't be part of and would probably start in 95% of them
     
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  10. totti fan

    totti fan Red Card

    Jun 24, 2010
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    He never shows up in important matches and what little he does show against minnows is blown out of proportion.

    Sensi was the player who impressed yesterday. That pinpoint lifted pass he played is better than anything verratti is capable of.
     
  11. Calcio Pauly

    Calcio Pauly Member+

    Jun 17, 2012
    Club:
    AC Milan
    That old fart Tavecchio pretty much put into play the biggest change the Germans made. Aside from that they started bringing younger hungrier players up to the national team sooner. Mancini is doing that now.

    Milan, Fiorentina, Inter and now even Roma seem to be picking up the slack. You guys better be careful or you might be dubbed the new Inter (ewwwww).
     
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  12. Calcio Pauly

    Calcio Pauly Member+

    Jun 17, 2012
    Club:
    AC Milan
    It's only two people who can't admit when they're wrong. One's a moron. The other you can consider like your Nonno, wise in some ways, stuck in other ways. He's a good guy you would want to play scala quaranta with, just don't take your eyes off the cards when he's shuffling or a few might go up his sleeve. :D

    My Nonno hated Fords till the day he died because he once knew someone who bought a new one that burned oil after a few months. Go figure.
     
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  13. Falc

    Falc Member+

    Jul 29, 2006
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    No hate for Verratti. He is a good player. Nothing more. Too much is being made of him as if he is some world class player. He is not. He is the best of the Zeman three but that is not saying a whole lot. He has a place on the NT but if he is not there, it will not be a big miss.
     
  14. calabrese8

    calabrese8 Member+

    Feb 9, 2008
    Vancouver
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    if his name was PUGLIAsic i don't think he would sniff our national team. He's decent but he's nowhere near world class
     
  15. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    #240 falvo, Nov 21, 2018
    Last edited: Nov 21, 2018
    Its probably because other than a few national team and CL games, not many fans have really ever seen him play or followed him on a weekly basis. I doubt there are many followers of Ligue 1- PSG. Or for that matter, remembers when he played in Serie B. To date, he has still yet played in a Serie A match.
     
  16. Calcio Pauly

    Calcio Pauly Member+

    Jun 17, 2012
    Club:
    AC Milan
    PSG plays in champions league Falvo. His biggest weakness is that he loses his temper and gets dumb cards way too often for PSG, not that he only runs away from play and makes backwards passes, or doesn't get forward enough. If he were Juventino, Falc would love him. On the other hand Tottifan is the kind of dummy that when he gets something wrong, rather than drop it, he doubles down, sock puppet and all, and borders on the ridiculous to try and force his ass backwards POV down people's throat.


    Falc, here's your way out

    [​IMG]

    It's a Verratti reset button. I know, old joke :D

    Just hit it you stubborn vecchione. :p Everyone here loves ya Signore.
     
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  17. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I've never watched a PSG game in its entirety. Not in Ligue 1 or a Champions League. Other than a Cups Winners Cup in the mid 90's and maybe an Intertoto, they've never won anything. Its pretty difficult to follow them nor do I want to. Many Italian or Serie A fans probably feel the same way. I also doubt they play at a level that the Serie A teams play at.
     
  18. Calcio Pauly

    Calcio Pauly Member+

    Jun 17, 2012
    Club:
    AC Milan
    #243 Calcio Pauly, Nov 21, 2018
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    From what I read in most of the club sub forums, that would be a negative.

    lol

    The only Serie A team that has a slightly better CL record in the last few years than PSG, is Juve Falvo.
     
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  19. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    #244 falvo, Nov 21, 2018
    Last edited: Nov 21, 2018
    They still haven't won or ever even made a CL final. No one I know in Italy follows Ligue 1 or PSG. At least Juve won 2 CL's and lost 7, Milan has 7 and lost 4, Inter won 3 and lost 2, Then you have Fiorentina, Sampdora and Roma who all lost 1. Heck Maldini alone won 5 CL's in 1988-1989, 1989-1990, 1993-1994, 2002-2003 and 2006-2007.

    The only French team to have won was Marseille when they beat Milan crookedly only by a match fixing scandal involving then president Bernard Tapie,.

    Serie A>>>Ligue 1!
     
  20. Pietro Calcio

    Pietro Calcio Member+

    Jul 28, 2007
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Oh Falvo.....I don't even know where to begin.

    You sure seem to have the pulse of every Italian on Earth though lol . That and the pulse of this person , and that so and so person , and .... pretty much everyone. :laugh:....As long as you're not hearing voices ( that aren't really there )...it's ok...I guess:thumbsdown:

    This is usually the part where I hear something said before or hear of someone else you know...or?.....or ?....You get the idea.

    Still like you though....You're a cool dude :D
     
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  21. Calcio Pauly

    Calcio Pauly Member+

    Jun 17, 2012
    Club:
    AC Milan
    #246 Calcio Pauly, Nov 21, 2018
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    Why do you argue about topics that you don't know anything about? Or why you assume that because you haven't watched any games since a decade or so, that no one else does and when it becomes obvious to others you cover it up with irrelevant historical data from when you lived in Italy with your cousins in 1950? :p

    Ditto what Pete said. You're a likeable guy but man you fill the calabrese testa dura bill like a tight glove.
     
  22. Falc

    Falc Member+

    Jul 29, 2006
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    If Verratti was playing for Juve, I would call him Cuadrado.

    Anytime I have watched PSG, whether in Ligue 1 or the CL, he has yet to impress me. Part of the problem for Verratti at PSG is that he is just a part. There is plenty of more talent to carry the offensive side. So we get the same basic player when he is with gli Azzurri.
     
  23. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    #248 falvo, Nov 21, 2018
    Last edited: Nov 21, 2018
    In 1950? Try from 2000-2005 and commuted back and forth until 2010/ I also speak with Italy on a daily basis for my business. .
     
  24. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Verratti probably wouldn't even start at Juve or at least would have a hard time finding a starting spot.


    Ligue 1, ma mi faccia il piacere!:D:D
     
  25. Calcio Pauly

    Calcio Pauly Member+

    Jun 17, 2012
    Club:
    AC Milan
    lol

    You ruined your perception a long time ago so you exaggerate the little things he doesn't do exactly to your liking and ignore the rest.

    [​IMG]

    You mean like 1 of 11. Shocker.
     

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