Nations League Italia vs Portugal and U.S. Friendly

Discussion in 'Italy: National Teams' started by toronto_soccer, Nov 8, 2018.

  1. toronto_soccer

    toronto_soccer Member+

    Mar 21, 2006
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    When: November 17th

    Where: Milan

    Ronaldo will not be joining the team. So there's hope.

    Rumours of Mancini selecting Inter's Politano and Brescia's Tonali. I'm reading that Tonali is the next Pirlo?!?!
     
  2. Rosay

    Rosay Member+

    May 7, 2014
    Club:
    AC Milan
    lets go Azzurri. let's beat those porkchops
     
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  3. UdineseFan98

    UdineseFan98 Member

    Mar 12, 2017
    St. Catherines, ON
    Club:
    Udinese Calcio
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Sandro Tonali:inlove:
     
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  4. johnny6

    johnny6 Member+

    AC Milan
    Italy
    Jun 29, 2011
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Tonali is a solid player.
     
  5. Alex101

    Alex101 Member

    Mar 15, 2017
    Only reason why Tonali and Zanolo got called up recently was because the Under 21's don't actually have to qualify or play competitive matches. makes no sense Cutrone is left off and Tonali is called up
     
  6. krado33

    krado33 Member+

    May 23, 2014
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Tonali's probably the next best midfielder (behind the starting 3) if you want to maintain the technical level.
     
  7. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I’m starting to think the USA will give Italy a good match. Many of their non MLS players are playing in Europe. Maybe not with top clubs but at a decent level.
     
  8. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I can believe that because I think both teams are evenly matched quality-wise.
     
  9. gumbacicc

    gumbacicc Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    USA
    I realize that Italy are not what they were historically, but to say they are evenly matched is false. When the U.S. has two central backs that start for Juve, central midfielders play key role for PSG and Chelsea, and a forward that is key for Napoli, we can start comparing them in terms of quality. Outside of Pulisic, what player does the U.S. have that plays a key role for a major club?
     
  10. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    You can make similar arguments for Sweden, a team against which Italy could not score a goal in three hours of football a year ago, or Macedonia, a team Italy could not beat at home 14 months ago.

    We are overrating Italy.
     
  11. thorus

    thorus Member

    Feb 28, 2016
    Club:
    --other--
    It's not even a question of quality. The US, usually, plays all matches as if they counted; they play tough, and make it as difficult as possible for the other team to get a victory.

    If nothing else, they beat Italy during the Prandelli regime, friendly and all.......
     
  12. johnny6

    johnny6 Member+

    AC Milan
    Italy
    Jun 29, 2011
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    USA will embarrass us unfortunately, i'm sure they are pissed after losing to the brits today.
     
  13. UdineseFan98

    UdineseFan98 Member

    Mar 12, 2017
    St. Catherines, ON
    Club:
    Udinese Calcio
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    [​IMG]
     
  14. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    #14 falvo, Nov 15, 2018
    Last edited: Nov 15, 2018
    I didn't watch the USA at England game so I can't judge them.Either way, Italy is no longer the force they use to be. For as long as I remember, the azzurri have had Juventini , Milanisti and Interisti but when you can't qualify for a WC or have to rely on an unknown defender to win you a game in the final seconds, the clubs you play for mean very little.
     
  15. TheAnswer1313

    TheAnswer1313 Member+

    Dec 12, 2007
    Charleston, WV
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Italy isn't great right now obviously

    But neither is the US MNT. They are a complete mess.

    I see this being a draw lol
     
  16. gumbacicc

    gumbacicc Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    USA
    Take a look at how the U.S. did yesterday. You are overrating them, and I say this as a supporter of both nations.
     
  17. gumbacicc

    gumbacicc Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    USA
    I can't believe I am even making this argument in comparing the two sides, but nonetheless...you can envision Italy getting their act together if Bonucci and Chiello boss the defense; Verratti and Jorginho do their jobs in the midfield; and if Insigne is even close to his Napoli form with the NT, aided by the development of Bernardeschi and Chiesa. In fact, you can envision a strong national side if all those things happen; things which are not all that far-fetched.

    What's the upside for the U.S.? Pulisic, who is arguably a player at the Insigne level, plays well? Who else is going to make a difference? The display yesterday was evidence of that. Contrast it with what we saw from Italy in the last two fixtures. You saw a side that played good football and bossed each game. The critcism would be in a failure to take their chances.

    I think the match against Portugal tomorrow will be quite telling of where we are currently.
     
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  18. calabrese8

    calabrese8 Member+

    Feb 9, 2008
    Vancouver
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    we also tied the USA in 2006 world cup..and we all know the quality and result of that tournament.

    just goes to show it can happen and if they play MLS rugby style..it will throw some of our more fragile players off.

    however.. to say that we have similar quality to them? rediculous.
     
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  19. 'Uaglio

    'Uaglio Member+

    Jun 8, 2004
    NYC
    I have to say I'm pretty excited about today's match. There is a lot more positive energy around Gli Azzurri than I've seen in a long while. We have some really good young players being inserted into the lineup, and the fans are appreciating that I think. 70,000 tickets have been sold for tonight's game and San Siro will be packed. Great to see.

    My only disappointment is that Belotti and Cutrone weren't called up. With Berna's injury, now we have to play Immobile in the middle. He always comes up small with la maglia azzurra...but I'm hoping he can put it together today. He certainly will have service given the quality on the wings and in the midfield.

    This is also a chance for Donnarumma to rise to the next level. Talent is there but the consistency is not. He's got to own that goal and really give our D a sense of security back there.

    For all the lamentations about the state of the Italian game, lack of home grown players in our league, poor youth systems and facilities, etc. (may of which I agree with), tonight is an opportunity to show the world, we still have quality. I think we still do.

    We are probably a central striker and terzino away from being a serious tournament contender again. Tonight should be a night we can build off of. FORZA ITALIA!
     
  20. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Interestingly, against England, there were only 3 MLS based starters who were featured : GK Brad Guzan , Defender Jorge Villafaña, and Mid Will Trapp.
     
  21. krado33

    krado33 Member+

    May 23, 2014
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Well Portugal plays again in a few days time. So if we win this, they could slip up against Poland (maybe tiredness, injury etc) and then we'd go through as group winners. I don't care about the Nations League but that would give us a chance to climb the rankings.
     
  22. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    What is the reasoning on why Ronaldo isn't playing again? Did he retire from the national team?
     
  23. cipro

    cipro Member

    Oct 9, 2005
    PhuckHead
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Cmon Immobile.
     
  24. TheAnswer1313

    TheAnswer1313 Member+

    Dec 12, 2007
    Charleston, WV
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Off to a nice start
     
  25. DOctore13

    DOctore13 Member

    Jul 19, 2013
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Immobile is a joke
     
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