National teams are becoming a joke

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  1. yazz

    yazz New Member

    Nov 19, 2003
    Jordan
  2. Blong

    Blong Member+

    Oct 29, 2002
    Midwest, the real one.
    Yes, it is a joke. And disrespectful to Qatari soccer players. And to the people of Qatar, for that matter.
     
  3. Gen-Max93

    Gen-Max93 New Member

    Oct 11, 2001
    Los Angeles, CA
    It doesnt matter who Qatar will try to buy, we will still beat them in Qatar when we meet them again. Losers........
     
  4. persiantiger

    persiantiger Guest

    Whats with qatar national teams buying everyone?
    Seriously their teams shouldn't compete under the name "Qatar" they should compete under the name "World All-stars" or something.

    Ahh who cares let them buy whoever they want. Their Weightlifting team has bought all of Bulgaria's best lifters and they still lose to ours(Iran's) so what will make their soccer team different? So what if they have the best goal scorer in bundesliga we have the best assister(is that corect term?) in bundesliga and a goal scorer needs to be feeded by the rest of his teammates who in the qatari team is gonna provide him with the ball? Its not like he can dribble the whole team i mean he is not ali karimi after all!;)
     
  5. danjeb

    danjeb New Member

    Sep 26, 2000
    California
    brazil should call this guy up (with no intention to play him) just to f qatar
     
  6. yazz

    yazz New Member

    Nov 19, 2003
    Jordan
  7. Bauvafa

    Bauvafa Red Card

    Oct 12, 2001
    USA
    I second that!
     
  8. Freddy Garcia Lives

    Feb 28, 2003
    Tumwater, WA
    Nothing like hired hands playing football. That is the spirit of sports that will ruin every sport sooner or later.
     
  9. Excape Goat

    Excape Goat Member+

    Mar 18, 1999
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Yeah, but this will open their door to more players from around the world. Look at the French, Italian, Portguese, German and other leagues in Europe, they had plenty of uncapped Brazilian players who are better than most Asian payers. Qatar can easily field an all-star team.

    Besides, Dede is a better player than Aliton. He has a slight chance of making the Brazilian team.
     
  10. Saudi Bill

    Saudi Bill New Member

    Aug 6, 2001
    Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
    Qatar has been nationlizing forign players from africa for a loong time now, seems africa is not enough.

    Its like a joke, every time Qatar enters a competetion the press ticks Qataries off by the "Why some of Qatar players cant even speake the local language" question. :D

    Nationalization for the sake of soccer is not new to the game. Qatar just took it a step forther.
     
  11. Bauvafa

    Bauvafa Red Card

    Oct 12, 2001
    USA
    If this happens then who's to stop other smaller countries with enough wealth from doing the same thing. I can imagine it become a race among countries like: Kuwait, Bahrain, Oman, UAE, maybe even S. Arabia (except Saudis will require change of religion as well).

    National teams is supposed to have a "national identity", how could FIFA allow this when a team like Qatar could easily field a team of 5 to 8 newly naturalized citizens. If the trend continues, it's gonna ruin the game and World Cup becomes meaningless.
     
  12. Blong

    Blong Member+

    Oct 29, 2002
    Midwest, the real one.
    Shame?
     
  13. K:thecore

    K:thecore Member+

    May 20, 2002
    Honolulu
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Im not sure why everyone's acting so surprised all of a sudden...

    One of Asia's "powerhouses," Japan, has been pulling this B.S. for a decade now.

    Multi-cultural countries like the U.S., England, or even France, are the only ones that can get away with this sort of thing.

    When ethnically singular countries do, they look like theyre trying too hard to portray that image...or more likely, like theyre adding a few cards to the deck.

    Japan could have been more subtle about it all, especially when nationalizing brazillians, of all soccer nations. You knew thats all that was about b/c these guys sucked asss.
     
  14. topcow

    topcow New Member

    Nov 23, 2000
    New York
    I believe Japan has strict naturalization requirements, and the Brazil born players on their national team have all met those requirements. As far as I know Japan hasn't made any exceptions for them.

    If you want to argue about the merits of naturalization for national teams, there's a good thread in the beautiful game forum you can browse.

    And please, stop trolling.
     
  15. ACkenji

    ACkenji Member

    Jan 13, 2002
    Though regrettable, although there are few people who want to become South Koreans, there are many people who want to become Japanese.
    We do not have the right which stops people who want to become Japanese.
    Sorry,Koreans,sorry.
     
  16. danjeb

    danjeb New Member

    Sep 26, 2000
    California
    The US at least doesn't do it well enough to matter... I think I'm gonna offer my services to USSF to go down to brazil and get as many women pregnant as possible.... I could probably field a staring 11 with the same last name
     
  17. K:thecore

    K:thecore Member+

    May 20, 2002
    Honolulu
    Club:
    Arsenal FC

    Really???

    Im pretty sure you have rules and laws which either prevent or make it very very difficult for other Asians from becoming Japanese citizens but for some reason (feeling my sarcasm here, moron?) you miraculously and seamlessly allow Brazillian soccer players to become ones???

    Sorry Japan, sorry....but perception is reality...and Ive never seen a bigger group of wannabes.
     
  18. ACkenji

    ACkenji Member

    Jan 13, 2002
    Such a law is not in Japan.
    You do not know well about Japan.
    The wrong information is taught to you.You should look at not MATRIX but actual Japan.
    Since Brazillian players becomes Japanese,It has taken about one year.
    They pass some examination carried out in the meantime, and have become Japanese.
    Whether or not they are Asians,there are those who do not pass the examination.Brazillian players which wants to become Japanese can write Japanese, and can speak it. And they have not committed a crime.
     
  19. rougou

    rougou Member+

    Dec 7, 2003
    Hyogo
    Club:
    AS Roma
    haha, you have made me laugh with your foolish comments. did you fail at becoming a Japanese in the past?
     
  20. Premium Hamatachi redded

    Sep 9, 2002
    it is rather koreanism than sarcasm i should say. the complex that mr. k:thecore possesses against us is somewhat makes me sympathetic and cry. I assure you, however, your concern with our immigration law may be taken to japanese immigration office when the sun rises from the west so please do not worry too much about it. meantime, before being “sarcastic” (as you say) you need to make up your mind what nationality you truly root for. it is not a good idea to be an american only when it’s convenient and fight against them most of time as a korean. speaking of naturalization, weren’t korean fan boys excited about sasa or whatever trying to become a korean long time ago (what happen to him anyway)? when a thing happens to korea they boast but when a thing happens to us they get jealous and start ****************ing. that’s what i call koreanism and pretty idiotic and pathetic.
     
  21. Elninho

    Elninho Member+

    Sacramento Republic FC
    United States
    Oct 30, 2000
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm going to have to defend Japan here. Alex had lived in Japan for almost 9 years when he became a citizen. If I remember correctly, Japan has an 8-year residency requirement which not only Alex, but also Wagner Lopes and previous Brazilians had to meet. That's why Lopes didn't play for Japan until he was around 30.

    Alex moved to Japan when he was 14, went to a Japanese high school, spent the most important years of his soccer development in Japan, and speaks, reads, and writes Japanese fluently. Isn't it at least somewhat plausible that he would consider Japan to be his home country by now? Certainly he's got a better claim to citizenship than most of the players that various countries are naturalizing.

    As a final note, there is a substantial Brazilian immigrant community in Japan (many of whom are Japanese citizens themselves), and there is a very significant Japanese minority in Brazil. Sao Paulo supposedly has the largest population of Japanese outside Japan. Especially when you take ancestry into account, there are plenty of non-soccer reasons for Brazilians to be Japanese citizens.
     
  22. K:thecore

    K:thecore Member+

    May 20, 2002
    Honolulu
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Sorry no... Im American. I wouldnt pick up a certificate of japanese Citizenship if they were handing em out.

    But I know there are some Koreans there, for whatever reasons, who still cannot gain citizenship and still have to maintain japanese Surnames. A lot of them have been there over 10 years, well past the requirement.

    And yet a Brazillian can? I guess the laughable saving grace here is that the Brazillians whove played for japan have been subpar...is it any wonder why they want citizenship in japan in the first place? hmmmm

    Please...continue on with your Hirohito teachings.

    Peace....(laughs)
     
  23. ACkenji

    ACkenji Member

    Jan 13, 2002
    Although it is sad, your friend's Koreans are telling you nothings.
    Offenders cannot become Japanese.
    This is sad for them.
     
  24. JPFN

    JPFN New Member

    Aug 18, 2002
    it
    In order to acquire citizenship of Japan, some severe qualification is required. There are many people who cannot pass such qualification.
    However, normal people can surely pass them.

    Please tell your friends(or you?) that it was regrettable.
     
  25. Korean Football

    Korean Football New Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    U.S.
    ok guys chill it.

    both Korea and Japan have relatively strict immigration laws than many other countries around the world. However, both countries can make "exceptions" as long as they are deemed as "profittable to the country."

    I believe all the naturalized Japanese players have met the requirements so there's no point continuing in this manner.

    So freeze it.
     

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