National Team Crest

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by fdp, Dec 17, 2002.

  1. fdp

    fdp Red Card

    Oct 24, 2001
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    I like the U.S. National Team Crest.

    I have several questions about it.

    What do the three stars signify?

    Do they have anything to do with the USWNT?
     
  2. dcufan1984

    dcufan1984 Member

    Feb 17, 2002
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    troll
     
  3. neilgrossman

    neilgrossman New Member

    May 12, 2000
    Hoboken, NJ
    The stars have been there for a while, so they don't have to do with the women's team. I assume they put stars in it because there are stars in the US flag. Three fit well.
     
  4. BelhavenKeeper

    BelhavenKeeper New Member

    Nov 15, 2002
    Vienna, Austria
    The soccer ball in the middle of the "US" signifies that we are the U.S. and we play soccer.
     
  5. cpwilson80

    cpwilson80 Member+

    Mar 20, 2001
    Boston
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Red is for the color of all the cards Mexico will receive as they hack us for the next 4 years

    The White is for the color of the fearful eyes of all the supposed European superpowers when we play them

    The Blue is for the color of every US fan after they party way too much when we win the World Cup one day and engage in various stages of disrobing
     
  6. Ringo

    Ringo Member

    Jun 10, 2002
    Rough and Ready
    Club:
    Yeovil Town FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    i think the three stars are there to represent every time Freddy Adu will single-handidly win the World Cup.
    but, that's just a guess you know.
     
  7. Mark Coker

    Mark Coker Member

    Apr 18, 1999
    Seattle,WA, USA
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I recall reading somewhere where they represented Men, women, and youth.
     
  8. fdp

    fdp Red Card

    Oct 24, 2001
    Re: Re: National Team Crest


    Why?

    Its an honest question.

    There were some funny posts though.

    I really like the red card explanation.
     
  9. Goalkeeps7

    Goalkeeps7 Member

    Apr 1, 1999
    The 3 stars signify the Mens, Womens, and Youth National team programs.
     
  10. Various Styles

    Various Styles Member+

    Mar 1, 2000
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Re: Re: Re: National Team Crest

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  11. GRUNT

    GRUNT Member

    Feb 27, 2001
    Lake Oswego, OR
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    White kids?

    Actually, I believe that's an artist depiction of a Korean customs agent, helpfully directing the Mexican National Team on June 17 in Jeonju, South Korea.

    But I could be wrong.


    :)
     
  12. eurojack

    eurojack Member

    Jun 29, 2001
    It's an honest question and a good one, as well. Usually stars are meant to signify a World Championship (i.e. a World Cup) that a respective nation has won. I can't recall the US men winning any world championships - perhaps it represents the number of defenders in Steve Sampson's ill-faited 3-6-1 formation, with the 6 blue bars representing the number of midfielders, and the soccer ball representing the lone forward.

    Why is everyone so defensive about this, especially the person who labeled the topic-poster a "troll?"
     
  13. fidlerre

    fidlerre Member+

    Oct 10, 2000
    Central Ohio
    agreed...
     
  14. GRUNT

    GRUNT Member

    Feb 27, 2001
    Lake Oswego, OR
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "Everyone" isn't. Some of us simply don't give a turd.
     
  15. dcufan1984

    dcufan1984 Member

    Feb 17, 2002
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Re: National Team Crest

    sorry. i though that you were implying that we had not won a world cup... therefore why do we have stars on our crest.

    i guess i am just used to the sarcastic posts that try to bait people. didn't mean to dismiss your question.

    :)
     
  16. bright

    bright Member

    Dec 28, 2000
    Central District
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I believe the stars represent the Men's, Women's, and Youth programs. And the 11 blue and white stripes represent the 11 players who comprise a soccer team.

    - Paul
     
  17. empennage

    empennage Member

    Jan 4, 2001
    Phoenix, AZ
    I remember a year or two ago there was an argument on BS saying that the colors were backwards. The shield should have a blue top and red strips, just like the flag.

    I think it symbolizes USSF's stupidity because they can't get the colors right. ;)
     
  18. NYC

    NYC New Member

    Nov 1, 1999
    It's actually bugged me for quite awhile that the stars are on there. We all know what stars traditionally mean on a shirt, and until we earn the right to put them on there, take 'em off.

    And there's no point guys in being defensive about them being there, it's not like we put them on. Some marketing genius at the fed probably tried to create some false sense of tradition as usual.
     
  19. jeffenbauer

    jeffenbauer Member

    Jul 17, 2002
    dallas, tx
    3 stars

    Yes, it is traditional to add a star for every world cup championship. These 3 stars, however, are within the crest. The championship stars are placed above the crest.
     
  20. Noah Dahl

    Noah Dahl New Member

    Nov 1, 2001
    Pottersville
    The phony crest is Nike's lame attempt to make Steinbrecher's corporate logo look more traditional.

    Steinbrecher's corporate logo, of course, was designed to replace the genuinely more traditional USSF crest.

    Sigh.
     
  21. NASL Fan

    NASL Fan Member

    Nov 23, 1999
    Los Angeles, USA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    I don't mind the new crest since I associate the old one with being eliminated from the 1970, 74, 78, 82 and 86 World Cups...
     
  22. VON9905

    VON9905 New Member

    Aug 27, 2002
    Huntsville, AL, USA
    I'm not an historian or anything, but wasn't 1990 the first year that the US qualified for the World Cup since the 50's. Even then they only made it because Mexico got disqualified.
     
  23. fdp

    fdp Red Card

    Oct 24, 2001
    photo of old crest?
     
  24. NASL Fan

    NASL Fan Member

    Nov 23, 1999
    Los Angeles, USA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's right. To be fair to the old crest, the US team at the 1990 World Cup wore it. Of course, we went three and out.

    After 1950, this was our record:

    1954 World Cup: Only three teams entered Concacaf qualifying that year. US played two games away in Mexico and lost 0-4 and 1-3. We beat Haiti twice in Port au Prince 3-2 and 3-0 after Mexico had already won the only Concacaf spot.

    1958: Six teams entered. We were eliminated by Mexico and Canada, both of which beat us home and away, including a 2-7 thrashing at home by Mexico in Los Angeles. Ouch.

    1962: Eight teams entered. We played a first round playoff with Mexico, tying the first leg 3-3 with Mexico in L.A., then losing 0-3 in Mexico City. Mexico eventually beat Paraguay in a playoff to quality.

    1966: Ten teams entered. We were elminated in the first round again, losing to the Mexicans away again (0-3), tying them in L.A. and then winning a meaningless game against Honduras away in San Pedro Sula (1-0).

    1970: Mexico qualified directly as hosts that WC. And we actually got past the first round, beating Canada 1-0 in Atlanta after losing 4-2 in Toronto but winning the group on points after beating Bermuda twice. In the 2nd round we lost both home and away to Haiti (including 0-1 in San Diego) and were elminated. El Salvador beat Haiti in the final round.

    1974: Once again we were elminated by Mexico in the first round, managing only a 2-2 against Canada in Baltimore and dropping the other three games, including a 1-2 defeat vs. Mexico in Los Angeles.

    1978: Once again, we play a three way group with Canada and Mexico. This time, however, we play with NASL pros and go 1 win 2 ties 1 loss, and end up in a three way tie. Mexico goes through to the next round on goal difference, we play a one game playoff vs. Canada in Haiti and lose 3-0.

    1982: 15 teams enter Concacaf qualifying. For the last time, we are in a preliminary "northern" group with Canada and Mexico. Once again, we finish third. In the final group game, after being eliminated, we win a meaningless 2-1 victory over Mexico in Ft. Lauderdale.

    1986: This one probably hurts the most. 18 team enter. We eliminate the Dutch Antilles in the first round after a 4-0 victory in St. Louis. But we are eliminated in our second round group. After a brave 1-1 tie in Costa Rica, we lose 0-1 to Costa Rica in Torrance when a tie will send us through to the final round vs. Canada and Honduras. Canada later qualifies.

    Bottom line. Between 1954 and 1986, the US team did not play a single game where a win would have put us in the World Cup finals. We were always eliminated in preliminary rounds.

    A sad history that makes our 2-0 victory in 2002 over Mexico in the first ever meeting between our two sides in the World Cup Finals all the sweeter, given how many times they sent us home.
     
  25. Hattrix

    Hattrix Member

    Sep 1, 2002
    Chicago
    Pretty Please?!?!
     

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