NASL 2017 News Thread

Discussion in 'NASL' started by Sandon Mibut, Jan 4, 2017.

  1. gstommylee

    gstommylee Member+

    Oct 3, 2008
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    The weather was still one issue the rest of is dealing with competition with the other sports which would have major events going on.
     
  2. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  3. MNNumbers

    MNNumbers Member

    Jul 10, 2014
    No details given in that article about whether its a split season, or exactly how the season lines up. Therefore, like others have said, it's really spin because they are losing spring 2018 due to the current uncertainty of how many teams will be available, and sponsorships, etc.

    I find it an ingenious spin, but in reality, it won't matter.
     
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  4. Macsen

    Macsen Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 5, 2007
    Orlando
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's what I thought, too. They can't afford to start in the Spring, and are stalling for time.
     
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  5. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They already compete with those sports in their fall season.. the challenge for them may be their playoffs, which, depending on scheduling, may happen at the same time as the NHL and NBA playoffs.
     
  6. MNNumbers

    MNNumbers Member

    Jul 10, 2014
    I'm sure it's nothing more than spin, but it would be easy enough to do some thing like this:

    Fall 2018: 18 games (I'm assuming a 10 team league here), starting Aug 4, with 1 mid-week match day. That's a 17 week schedule ending Thanksgiving.

    Spring 2019: 9 games, beginning March 2 again with 1 mid-week match day. That's an 8-week schedule, ending April 20.

    2 weeks playoffs (same system as now, with Fall and Spring champs + 2 more teams), and it's finished on the 1st weekend of May, which is very close to the end of the Premier League, and before NHL and NBA playoffs really start rolling.

    That's in no way a BAD schedule, even for northern teams. It's weird to have 3 months off, but for the sake of NY, it will about have to be something like that.
     
  7. Bklyn Royals Fan

    United States
    Jan 17, 2008
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re the NASL Schedule moving to the international FIFA schedule, I like the idea and I think it is a good market test to gauge US soccer interest during that time period.

    Even MLS would be mildly curious at the results. I'm sure the NASL will probably have a winter break. Who in their right mind will go to to MCU park in December?

    That being said, all of this doesn't really matter as the NASL is on life-support. If the NASL had more teams in its stable this schedule move would be more meaningful.
     
  8. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That just buys them time to prolong the inevitable.

    They won't play a Spring season, we know they were not going to any ways.

    So now they can "plan" to start the season in July 2018.

    I am sure that come July they will fold or say the season will start in March 2019.
     
  9. Gamecock14

    Gamecock14 Member+

    May 27, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    It would be interesting if the Cosmos were not the only team in a cold weather climate.

    Mid November to Mid February is pretty brutal. The average temps are colder in NYC than Aberdeen Scotland in the winter by a few degrees. The NFL struggles with getting people to watch in the cold weather games if their team is not in the playoffs or in the playoff hunt.

    It's not going to be easy, unless you barely have any northern teams.
     
  10. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Mark Fishkin‏ @MarkFishkin 13m13 minutes ago
    As per team owner Robert Palmer, the NASL's @JaxArmadaFC is talking to other leagues (some below D2), in case the NASL doesn't win the lawsuit. Plans to move forward with a soccer-specific stadium.
     
  11. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
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  12. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It would be more interesting of NASL actually played during the winter months instead of the most likely change, which is to keep their split schedule with the Fall running August to October, then Spring running March to June.
     
  13. Mr. Orange

    Mr. Orange Member

    North Carolina FC
    Apr 7, 2008
    Raleigh
    Club:
    Carolina Railhawks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agreed.

    Their announcement says they'll start Aug. 11 and finish June 1, 2019. This means a 2 month off-season. So unless they find a way to expand last season's eight month schedule to a ten month schedule, there will probably be a winter break longer than the off-season.
     
  14. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Which is frankly ridiculous. Why not just call it what it is... 2 separate seasons annually. You can't have a mid season break that is longer than the off season and be taken seriously...

    Not that anyone has taken NASL seriously in recent years.
     
  15. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So of the "6" remaining. Two are actively working to find another league (JAX and SD). One has fallen off the face of the Earth (Orange County), and one seems a stretch that they'd even play given the dire situation in their Commonwealth (PR).

    So it's as most expected, NY and Miami are holding out til the bitter end namely because they're the driving force behind the lawsuit and always were.
     
  16. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    This change might line up better with some of the bigger leagues and transfer windows outside the U.S. but for most of the NASL players and coaches it might make things harder to move around domestically. Very few players are getting transfers out of NASL to the USL or MLS. Those leagues might sign guys who are out of contract but they won't be out of contract in the winter which is when the teams would be looking for new players. Same thing for coaches.
     
  17. JDogindy

    JDogindy Member

    Nov 20, 2014
    Club:
    Indy Eleven
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Also known as "Liga MX".

    Problem with this is that instead of having virtually two separate seasons, they want to have one long as hell season with a seasonal vacation.
     
  18. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Liga MX only has a less than 4 week break between the end of the Fall and beginning of the Spring season, and their off season is 2 months long... so not really comparable to what NASL will have to propose unless they're planning to put NYC on a 4 month road trip from December to March.
     
  19. MNNumbers

    MNNumbers Member

    Jul 10, 2014
    NASL isn't proposing anything. Their league is evaporating from under them (Them here means Miami and NYC). In order to keep any relevance at all, they have to act as if something is actually happening.

    Since they can't play a spring season in '18, due to not having any sanctioning and too few teams for a meaningful season even if they do win in court, they have to say something to preserve the fantasy that they will survive.

    Since they can't really take a whole year off without everyone writing them off (which we all are anyway), they decide to spin the matter as if it's a large plan to change to a fall - to - spring season.

    That's all this is. No details actually mean anything. They don't even have a league, really. They are down to 2 teams, in reality.

    At this point, even with no court issued decision, NISA might actually be ahead of them.
     
  20. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    For some reason, the NASL's "elective" calendar switch reminds me of this ...

     
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  21. JDogindy

    JDogindy Member

    Nov 20, 2014
    Club:
    Indy Eleven
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was thinking about that on the bus ride home. They'd likely have the Cosmos play 9 games at home or 8 out of 10 for the beginning & then stick the team in a trailer, drive all around the South, and charge two bits a gander.

    Anything at this point will not surprise me at all.
     
  22. oknazevad

    oknazevad Member

    New York Red Bulls
    Oct 24, 2005
    North Jersey
    Yeah, most of the euro-wannabees don't have any idea that much of Europe doesn't get anywhere as cold and the northern US and Canada in the winter. The countries in Europe that do get that cold actually also follow a spring-to-fall schedule. Norway's Eliteserien, for example, runs April to November. So, for that matter does Ireland's top league. Wynalda is just being a damn europoser.
     
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  23. gstommylee

    gstommylee Member+

    Oct 3, 2008
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    There is also the MLB world series playoffs going on in the fall.
     
  24. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I went to Tromso in 2015. In January. I was there for three days, and the sun never rose.

    It was 20 degrees warmer in Tromso than it was in Chicago.
     
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  25. Todorojo

    Todorojo Member

    Oct 27, 2008
    South Weber, UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    I am pretty sure that this is true in the top division in Poland. They have a long winter break and a short summer off season in order to have a season as similar as possible to some of the other euro leagues. It gets too cold there to play through the winter though.
     

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