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Discussion in 'Nashville SC' started by DoyleG, Aug 22, 2003.

  1. Huwiler's Odoreaters

    Apr 10, 2007
    His wife's hometown, where he stays for part of his three-week off-season. His hometown is North Brunswick, NJ, and no matter what we may think about it, he is very fond of New Jersey.
     
  2. nickknx865

    nickknx865 New Member

    Apr 20, 2007
    Knoxville, Tennessee
    After all, what would America do without Mountain Dew, Johnny Knoxville, Quinetn Tarrintino, Kenny Chesney, and Chad Pennington
     
  3. Huwiler's Odoreaters

    Apr 10, 2007
    Maybe Mr. Jackass would like to start a USL2 team and call them the Knoxville Johnnies.

    They could bang free kicks off each other's unprotected goolies.
     
  4. illwauk

    illwauk Member

    Mar 27, 2007
    Milwaukee
    MLS would never work in Knoxville. In fact, the only league I could see expanding there is the WNBA.

    I really can't see the MLS working in Tennessee or anywhere in the south for that matter. Not including Florida, the only pro team in the south that gets decent support is the Braves. That's because if given a choice, the average southerner is always gonna choose college sports over the pros.

    But regardless, if there's someone in Tennessee with money that wants a team, then none of this matters.
     
  5. Calexico77

    Calexico77 Member

    Sep 19, 2003
    Mid-City LA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Where would they put all the wigs??
     
  6. golazo68

    golazo68 Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    May 21, 2004
    Brazil
    Knoxville is not near big enough.

    Memphis could build something at the Mike Rose site...
     
  7. Len

    Len Member+

    Club: Dallas Tornado
    Jan 18, 1999
    Everywhere and Nowhere.....I'm the wind, baby.
    But like most married men, he just does as he's told.....

    Re Memphis: with recent talk of building a new stadium (fairgrounds, I think) I was hoping there might be interest in an expansion MLS team. But so far, nothing.........but I have serious doubts about any new stadium anyway.

    EDIT: Of course, if the Redbirds ever leave, there is that beautiful downtown ball park that could be reconfigured.....
     
  8. fhsol76

    fhsol76 New Member

    Jul 15, 2005
    K-Town
    as cool as this would be, Worlds Fair park is not big enough for a stadium.

    As a ut student i would love it.
     
  9. DavidP

    DavidP Member

    Mar 21, 1999
    Powder Springs, GA
    Gets my nomination for idiot post of the year. You've been watching too many "Dukes of Hazard" and "Mama's Family " re-runs.
     
  10. illwauk

    illwauk Member

    Mar 27, 2007
    Milwaukee
    Right, I mean, it couldn't be that I've actually lived in the south or anything.

    It couldn't be that the Vols play in a stadium almost twice as big as the Titans'. Or that North Carolina has four college hoops teams that reguarly outdraw the Bobcats. Or even that whenever my Packers play on the road against the Saints, Jaguars or (until recently) the Bucs that the home team is always outnumbered by Green Bay fans.

    Yea, clearly I'm runnin' with stereotypes...
     
  11. HSEUPASSION

    HSEUPASSION New Member

    Apr 16, 2005
    Duck, NC
    The Panthers, Falcons, and Saints draw very well.

    The basketball one is probably because Carolinians realized the NBA is a scam.
     
  12. Z010 Union

    Z010 Union Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I thought they only had good attendance when they were winning. I seem to remember some very dim actual attendance numbers despute high ticket sales.
     
  13. Huwiler's Odoreaters

    Apr 10, 2007
    Should point that the Titans always sell out their 67000 seat stadium. (The Superdome fits 2000 more, the Georgia Dome 4000 more, and Charlotte's stadium 6000 more.)

    NFL teams are NOT hurting football in the south. Especially where they're not in direct competition with SEC teams, and the only SEC school in an NFL town is Vanderbilt, and Vandy has almost no fans outside of people associated with Vandy (and as a relatively small school, that isn't many).

    How big is Neyland? 120k now? UT football is a freakshow.
     
  14. Len

    Len Member+

    Club: Dallas Tornado
    Jan 18, 1999
    Everywhere and Nowhere.....I'm the wind, baby.
    All this NBA talk got me thinking...

    Anyone think MLS could work in Tennessee?
     
  15. Huwiler's Odoreaters

    Apr 10, 2007

    Yes. In Bell Buckle. Or Wartburg.
     
  16. DavidP

    DavidP Member

    Mar 21, 1999
    Powder Springs, GA
    Never mind that the South has some of the top collegiate programs in the nation, and that the South has had some successful pro teams in the past (back when soccer was not at all popular). Just because football is big here, it doesn't mean soccer can't be successful as well. You're comparing apples and dump trucks. I don't know anyone who drinks mint juleps either, and I've lived here all my life.
     
  17. Huwiler's Odoreaters

    Apr 10, 2007
    Mint juleps are very, very good.
     
  18. United_Caps_Fan

    United_Caps_Fan New Member

    Apr 25, 2004
    Alexandria,VA 134/35
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I dont see Tennessee as a viable expansion option at this point. MLS needs to concentrate on expanding to cities that either have very large populations and/ or have demonstrated they will support professional soccer. Rochester and Portland OR come to mind.

    No offence, but Knoxville is too small. Until MLS can get ALL of its large market teams to do well, I say they shouldnt even look at any place smaller than thier current smallest city. In fact, I dont think they should consider any place even THAT small. The club in the largest market in North America cant even get any real support, getting 6,8,10,13K per game maybe 15 K on GOOD days in NY. That metro is close to 20 Million people.


    So no, no MLS in TN in the forseeable future.
     
  19. HSEUPASSION

    HSEUPASSION New Member

    Apr 16, 2005
    Duck, NC
    New Yorkers are glory hunters, that's why it's so low. If you look at the USL in the South you'll see what MLS wants, just in smaller packages.

    Atlanta - RE/MAX Grt. Atlanta Stadium
    Carolina (Cary) - SAS Stadium
    Carolina (Greensboro) - Macpherson Stadium
    Charlotte - Matthews SportsPlex (2008 or 2009)
    Charleston - Blackbaud Stadium

    Charlotte (Bank of America Stadium), Chattanooga, TN (Finlay Stadium) and Columbia, SC (Charlie Johnson Stadium) and Nashville (LP Field) have stadiums built with soccer in mind.

    Why hasn't pro soccer caught on here? It's never been given a fair shot. Atlanta, Charlotte, Greensboro, Charleston, and Richmond have been around for more than 10 years in leagues with very little exposure or money.
     
  20. Magpie Maniac

    Magpie Maniac Member

    Dec 28, 2001
    North Carolina, USA
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good post.

    BTW, they replaced the grass at Chattanooga's Finley Stadium with artificial turf. That town is way too small (in both population and mindedness) for anything more than a PDL side. I used to live there.

    Honestly, I think a city in North Carolina would land an MLS team before Tennessee. Central NC is more densely populated and it's a more soccer-friendly environment. Regardless, MLS is a long way off for either state -- if ever.
     
  21. joehooligan0303

    joehooligan0303 Member+

    Dec 16, 2001
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Neyland stadium is 107-108k. I live 1:30 from knoxville and UT football is just part of life here. You wouldn't believe the thousands of people that go to Knoxville every weekend from where I live.

    Having lived here my whole life and being fairly knowledgable about Knoxville, I agree with what others have said. I don't believe there is any chance MLS could make it in Knoxville. There is no way any sports teams would be completely embraced in Knoxville that isn't UT.

    I think there is a good soccer fan base in Nashville, but I don't know anything about Memphis. I attended the US Nats farwell game in Nashville just before the World Cup, and there was a good crowd of fairly knowledgable fans. I know one game isn't anything to base placing a MLS team there. Nashville does have a large metro area, but as much as I would love to have a team in Tennessee I think it would be a huge gamble to try it.
     
  22. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Those good old Memphis Rogues!
     
  23. Huwiler's Odoreaters

    Apr 10, 2007
    There are easily enough people in New York and its surrounding area to give that team a regular crowd base of 20k.

    There are so many people there that you could name any interest or activity under the sun and at least 20,000 people will be involved in it at any given time.

    When I've been to NY and NJ, I've seen soccer played and supported on a level I've only seen overseas. There really isn't any place in the US that I've been to that compares to it.

    There are no fans of any team anywhere in the world who would have put up with what fans of that team put up with-- the lies, being jerked around, playing at a stadium that is by design only practical to reach by car, in a place where traffic is so bad only a small minority of people even own cars.

    I agree, Yankees fans, Knicks fans, etc., are total glory hunters. But from talking to Metros/Red Bulls fans at games when I visited NJ, they would be content with only a NORMAL bad team, not a bad team run by a revolving cast of egotistical lunatics who look to screw the fans at every opportunity.

    On to the topic at hand: central North Carolina has more people, but very decentralized. It would be another KC, a place where a small core of great soccer fans can easily get to games but casual fans wouldn't bother more than once or twice a year. I don't think Nashville or Memphis could support an MLS team either right now. Sadly, I think only ATL is a good fit for soccer in the southeast right now, and then only with the perfect stadium location.

    Let's see how things go with the RailHawks. My feeling is that if a city can't be near the top of the USL in attendence, it won't come close to being a success in MLS.
     
  24. TooLegit2Quit

    TooLegit2Quit New Member

    Jul 21, 2007
    Knoxville, TN
    I would love a Knoxville team that would be awesome, I'm thinking the KNoxville Noise
     
  25. HighburyForever

    HighburyForever Red Card

    Oct 15, 2006
    Wooloomooloo, New South Wales
    Club:
    Zenit St Petersburg
    Nat'l Team:
    Russia

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