NASCAR Nextel Cup Thread 2006 [R]

Discussion in 'Automotive' started by Mr Hanki's Throne, Jan 20, 2006.

  1. kebzach

    kebzach Member

    Dec 30, 2000
    Greenfield, WI
    I'd like to know how it's the 8 car's mistake that he's leading on the last lap, and I'd like to know how it's the 48 car's mistake that he moved over a full lane lower on the track to pass the 8 car. Neither of those cars did anything wrong...the 25 thought that he could push the 48 past the 8 and didn't judge how much room he needed to move over behind the 48.
     
  2. kebzach

    kebzach Member

    Dec 30, 2000
    Greenfield, WI
    This fella knows his stuff.
     
  3. fatbastard

    fatbastard Member+

    Aug 1, 2003
    Lincoln (ish), Va
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    stockcarfans.com has a mailing list, I get that info every week - they may also have it on their website.
    ok, I was originally going to post the top 20, but I felt the need to go way overboard :)

    Remember the other 2 big fights going on: For 11th place, and for 35th place. You can't relly use the "classic points" list verbatim to figure out the 11th place battle (you have to think just a little), but you can for 35th place :)
     
  4. Mr Hanki's Throne

    Mr Hanki's Throne New Member

    Mar 13, 2001
    Wellington, Colo
    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/motor/nascar/2006-10-12-mb2-carmichael_x.htm

    Ricky Carmichael, the long-time motocross star, is joining NASCAR. He is going to run a mixed bike/stock car schedule next year and join stockers full-time in 2008. Looks like he could be racing in ARCA trucks by the end of next year, so he isn't being dumped in the big leagues.

    It is interesting how many drivers are crossing over into NASCAR. It had to happen when you had nobodies like Denny Hamlin and Carl Edwards coming out of nowhere to get top rides. And next year, there are going to be a lot of extra seats to fill with Toyota jumping in, but there are also going to be lots of drivers going home. I wonder if NASCAR will change the 35 limit to something like 30 or 27, to acknowledge the amount of quality near the bottom of the points standings and get all these new teams a better chance of qualifying.

    The most interesting thing about that article above: Carmichael is one of the few names I recognize from motocross, as I watch only about 10 minutes at a time when I am flipping channels. But Carmichael is only 26 years old! It seems like he's been around forever.
     
  5. eric_appleby

    eric_appleby Member+

    Jun 11, 1999
    Down East
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Montoya also.

    Nascar is too low-brow for the motorsports purists, but it's where the money and action is.

    Ganassi is already starting to sell swag to countries in Europe and S. America.
    The Montoya thing is a huge coup. By the way, he raced in the Arca Talladega event and said he had never had so much fun racing in his life.
     
  6. Mr Hanki's Throne

    Mr Hanki's Throne New Member

    Mar 13, 2001
    Wellington, Colo
    That's interesting. Personally licensed merchandise was owned by the drivers, I thought. That's why Dale Earnhardt was so rich, t-shirts. Maybe Montoya has a marketting agreement with Ganassi, because he knows the local market, but that seems to put too much power over the driver's finances in the hands of the owner.
     
  7. fatbastard

    fatbastard Member+

    Aug 1, 2003
    Lincoln (ish), Va
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The wreck Montoya drove through was awesome. 18 out of 19 guys would have wrecked right along with the car who hit him broadside. I can't wait to watch him run real cars :D
    Talladega is an easy race for him though, there are no brakes used (except pitting) and you don't really notice the weight of the cars due to the banking. I wanna see him race Bristol or Martinsville :) Or even one of the road courses will be complicated for him, after driving cars that actually stick to the ground and make tight turns, the NASCAR car is gonna feel like a dumptruck ;)

    Different drivers/owners have different deals on merchandise. Usually there is both "team" stuff and "driver" stuff to sell. Earnhardt made so much because he was the first guy to realize how much money would be involved and he got a big cut of the company that handles most drivers' and teams' stuff. So not only did he make alot selling DE stuff, but made some selling other people's crap too.
     
  8. Mr Hanki's Throne

    Mr Hanki's Throne New Member

    Mar 13, 2001
    Wellington, Colo
    Kasey Kahne wins Charlotte. An ill-timed caution prevented Jeff Burton from going two laps down when he couldn't restart on pit road, so that opportunity to tighten up the standings fell away, as Burton still leads the standings.

    Here's what Junior had to say in the race http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/story/6064092

     
  9. Mr Hanki's Throne

    Mr Hanki's Throne New Member

    Mar 13, 2001
    Wellington, Colo
    In my official personal Mr Hanki's Of Course NASCAR's Point System Is Flawed Point System (TM), after Charlotte:
    1 - +0 - 1690 - Kenseth M [[ 8 Equivalent Wins ]]
    2 - +1 - 1686 - Kahne K
    3 - -1 - 1598 - Johnson J [[ 7 1/2 EW ]]
    4 - +0 - 1490 - Harvick K [[ 7 EW ]]
    5 - +0 - 1443 - Stewart T
    6 - +0 - 1197 - Gordon J [[ 5 1/2 EW ]]
    7 - +0 - 1056 - Busch Ky [[ 5 EW ]]
    8 - +0 - 973 - Hamlin D [[ 4 1/2 EW ]]
    9 - +0 - 944 - Earnhardt D
    10 - +0 - 943 - Burton J

    Others: Edwards C (881), Busch Ku (794), Biffle G (737), Martin M (736), Vickers B (626)
     
  10. Mr Hanki's Throne

    Mr Hanki's Throne New Member

    Mar 13, 2001
    Wellington, Colo
    Survivor-style elimination:

    Qualified for Charlotte:
    KHarvick - DJarrett - KKahne - MKenseth - MMartin

    Eliminated at Charlotte - Dale Jarrett in 41st place out of the race after 32 laps, saving Mark Martin in the Elimintation Room in 30th place.
     
  11. Mr Hanki's Throne

    Mr Hanki's Throne New Member

    Mar 13, 2001
    Wellington, Colo
    Mr. Hanki's Chase Standings.

    1 - +4 - 494 - Kahne K
    2 - -1 - 435 - Edwards C
    3 - -1 - 418 - Kenseth M
    4 - -1 - 374 - Harvick K
    5 - -1 - 373 - Stewart T
    6 - +1 - 280 - Johnson J
    7 - -1 - 199 - Gordon J
    8 - +1 - 184 - Busch Ky
    9 - +1 - 171 - Earnhardt D
    10 - -2 - 169 - Hamlin D
     
  12. kebzach

    kebzach Member

    Dec 30, 2000
    Greenfield, WI
    Ward will be back in the #4 car next week at Martinsville.
     
  13. kebzach

    kebzach Member

    Dec 30, 2000
    Greenfield, WI
    # Unofficial "Classic" Points Standings
    ...the old way, not the Chase way, after Martinsville:

    1) #17-Matt Kenseth, 4583
    2) #48-Jimmie Johnson, 4490, 93
    3) #29-Kevin Harvick, 4253, 330
    4) #11-Denny Hamlin, 4119, 464
    5) #20-Tony Stewart, 4108, 475
    6) #31-Jeff Burton, 4107, 476
    7) #6-Mark Martin, 4068, 515
    8) #8-Dale Earnhardt Jr., 4067, 516
    9) #5-Kyle Busch, 4066, 517
    10) #9-Kasey Kahne, 4063, 520
    11) #24-Jeff Gordon, 4018, 565
    12) #99-Carl Edwards, 3862, 721
    (10-22-2006)
     
  14. Mr Hanki's Throne

    Mr Hanki's Throne New Member

    Mar 13, 2001
    Wellington, Colo
    A frustrating day for this Dale Earnhardt fan as Jr. spun out near the end of the race. Maintaining position would have left win in second or third about 40 points out of first place, but he decided to mess with Kahne. Johnson wins the race and resumes the lead in my open-wheel inspired points system.

    In my official personal Mr Hanki's Of Course NASCAR's Point System Is Flawed Point System (TM), after Martinsville:
    1 - +2 - 1798 - Johnson J [[ 8 1/2 Equivalent Wins]]
    2 - +0 - 1714 - Kahne K
    3 - -2 - 1708 - Kenseth M
    4 - +0 - 1512 - Harvick K [[ 7 1/2 EW ]]
    5 - +0 - 1493 - Stewart T [[ 7 EW ]]
    6 - +0 - 1237 - Gordon J [[ 6 EW ]]
    7 - +1 - 1073 - Hamlin D [[ 5 EW ]]
    8 - -1 - 1056 - Busch Ky
    9 - +0 - 944 - Earnhardt D [[ 4 1/2 EW ]]
    10 - +0 - 943 - Burton J

    Others: Edwards C (897), Busch Ku (794), Biffle G (737), Martin m (736), Vickers B (637)
     
  15. Mr Hanki's Throne

    Mr Hanki's Throne New Member

    Mar 13, 2001
    Wellington, Colo
    Survivor-style elimination:

    Qualified for Martinsville:
    KHarvick - KKahne - MKenseth - MMartin

    Eliminated at Martinsville - Mark Martin in 24th place, running on the lead lap, saving Matt Kenseth in 11th place at the elimination room.

    Just three drivers left, to be decided in the next two races.
     
  16. Mr Hanki's Throne

    Mr Hanki's Throne New Member

    Mar 13, 2001
    Wellington, Colo
    Mr. Hanki's Chase Standings.

    1 - +0 - 534 - Kahne K
    2 - +4 - 480 - Johnson J
    3 - -1 - 460 - Edwards C
    4 - -1 - 446 - Kenseth M
    5 - +0 - 439 - Stewart T
    6 - -2 - 407 - Harvick K
    7 - +3 - 269 - Hamlin D
    8 - -1 - 249 - Gordon J
    9 - -1 - 206 - Busch Ky
    10 - -1 - 171 - Earnhardt D
     
  17. Mr Hanki's Throne

    Mr Hanki's Throne New Member

    Mar 13, 2001
    Wellington, Colo
    Tony Stewart wins Atlanta, with Johnson coming 2nd. A couple of drivers dropped out with bad drives.

    In my official personal Mr Hanki's Of Course NASCAR's Point System Is Flawed Point System (TM), after Martinsville:
    1 - +2 - 1898 - Johnson J [[ 9 Equivalent Wins]]
    2 - +1 - 1758 - Kenseth M [[ 8 1/2 EW ]]
    3 - -1 - 1714 - Kahne K
    4 - +1 - 1693 - Stewart T [[ 8 EW ]]
    5 - -1 - 1512 - Harvick K [[ 7 1/2 EW ]]
    6 - +0 - 1270 - Gordon J [[ 6 EW ]]
    7 - +0 - 1098 - Hamlin D [[ 5 EW ]]
    8 - +0 - 1066 - Busch Ky
    9 - +0 - 1010 - Earnhardt D
    10 - +0 - 958 - Burton J [[ 4 1/2 EW ]]

    Others: Edwards C (925), Busch Ku (808), Biffle G (777), Martin M (736), Vickers B (646)
     
  18. Mr Hanki's Throne

    Mr Hanki's Throne New Member

    Mar 13, 2001
    Wellington, Colo
    Mr. Hanki's Chase Standings.

    1 - +4 - 639 - Stewart T
    2 - +0 - 580 - Johnson J
    3 - -2 - 534 - Kahne K
    4 - +0 - 496 - Kenseth M
    5 - -2 - 493 - Edwards C
    6 - +0 - 407 - Harvick K
    7 - +0 - 297 - Hamlin D
    8 - +0 - 289 - Gordon J
    9 - +1 - 237 - Earnhardt D
    10 - -1 - 206 - Busch Ky
     
  19. Mr Hanki's Throne

    Mr Hanki's Throne New Member

    Mar 13, 2001
    Wellington, Colo
    Survivor-style elimination:

    Qualified for Atlanta:
    KHarvick - KKahne - MKenseth

    Eliminated at Atlanta - Kasey Kahne in 38th place saving Kevin Harvick in 31st place at the elimination room.

    The survivor final is between Kevin Harvick and Matt Kenseth next week at Texas.
     
  20. Mr Hanki's Throne

    Mr Hanki's Throne New Member

    Mar 13, 2001
    Wellington, Colo
    Code:
    Rank	+/-	Driver	Points	Behind	Starts	Poles	Wins	Top 5	Top 10
    1	--	Matt Kenseth	6008	Leader	33	0	4	15	20
    2	+1	Jimmie Johnson	5982	-26	33	1	5	11	21
    3	+1	Denny Hamlin*	5943	-65	33	3	2	6	17
    4	+2	Dale Earnhardt Jr.	5924	-84	33	0	1	10	15
    5	--	Jeff Burton	5924	-84	33	4	1	7	19
    6	-4	Kevin Harvick	5887	-121	33	1	4	12	17
    7	+2	Jeff Gordon	5862	-146	33	1	2	13	16
    8	-1	Mark Martin	5807	-201	33	0	0	7	14
    9	-1	Kasey Kahne	5798	-210	33	5	6	11	17
    10	--	Kyle Busch	5759	-249	33	1	1	9	17
    
    11	--	Tony Stewart	4298	-1710	33	0	4	14	18
    12	--	Carl Edwards	4013	-1995	33	0	0	9	18
    13	--	Greg Biffle	3771	-2237	33	2	1	7	14
    14	--	Casey Mears	3616	-2392	33	0	0	2	7
    15	--	Brian Vickers	3589	-2419	33	0	1	5	9
     
  21. Mr Hanki's Throne

    Mr Hanki's Throne New Member

    Mar 13, 2001
    Wellington, Colo
    http://www.gadsdentimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061030/APS/610301597&sectioncat=SPORTS

     
  22. fatbastard

    fatbastard Member+

    Aug 1, 2003
    Lincoln (ish), Va
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    watching them track down Robby after the race to ask him to comment was hilarious, he tried to hide between the trucks :)
    They used to do this stuff all the time to cause cautions, but now there are just so many cameras, it's hard to get away with - although NBC usually manages to miss entire accidents, so not everything is filmed ;)
     
  23. Mr Hanki's Throne

    Mr Hanki's Throne New Member

    Mar 13, 2001
    Wellington, Colo
    http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-nascar-gordonpenalized&prov=ap&type=lgns

     
  24. fatbastard

    fatbastard Member+

    Aug 1, 2003
    Lincoln (ish), Va
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    why was the crew chief fined, did he say to do it over the radio?
    Not like there's any love lost between Gordon and Childress already, but that harmless move probably cost Childress hundreds of thousands of dollars.
     

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