Yes. Unless we lose to Liverpool by a one goal margin in which we score more than 4 goals (5-4 or 6-5).
Fkin Rui was the goat against PSG late eqaulizer and now today he lets his mark go. Ghoulam? Where are you?
We can only end up on 9 points if PSG draws and we lose. Then there will be a mini table between the 3 teams. Liverpool will have 6 points and Napoli and PSG 5. Now PSG’s goal difference is 0. If we lose by more than two goals we are out because we will be -1. Assuming we lose by one goal and PSG draws 0-0, then they have 3 goals against us and 4 against Liverpool. So are on 7. We have 3 against them and so far 1 against Liverpool. If we lose 4-3 we are equal on goals but then they have an overall better goal difference. So we need a 5-4 and they need to not score.
True but we get 1 goal and they would need 3 all of a sudden which would be hard to do even with them at home
So the question is do we want PSG to win or draw. If they draw then a 2-1 loss and we are out. But if they draw and we draw we win the group. If they win then a 2-1 loss and we still go up but even if we draw we would not win the group.
We have to go and win. If we finish second we will play one of Real Barca Manchester City Bayern Porto/Schalke We can’t play Juve or PSG. So we have to go for a win.
One could say the fact they need a goal maybe they press and while they push forward we hit them on the counter for a huge goal we need. Who knows. I could see it going both ways.
Draw would have been better for us. Because had they drawn we would have qualified and needes a draw to win the group. But without Mario Rui mistake we could have afforded to lose by one goal.
Basically just don't lose 1-0 or by 2+ goals. We all need to assume PSG will win. A goal away at Anfield would demoralize Liverpool and their fans as they'd then need to score 3.
wait a second I think if we are tied with PSG on points..........we go through based on away goals regardless of whether or not Liverpool is tied with us. If we lose 2-1 and PSG draws, we still go through. A three way tied would have Liverpool go through top of the group but then the tiebreakers go back starting from the beginning between just Napoli and PSG. Points in head-to-head matches among tied teams; Goal difference in head-to-head matches among tied teams; Goals scored in head-to-head matches among tied teams; Away goals scored in head-to-head matches among tied teams; If more than two teams are tied, and after applying all head-to-head criteria above, a subset of teams are still tied, all head-to-head criteria above are reapplied exclusively to this subset of teams; It would just go back to the top between Napoli and PSG. It wouldn't be all group matches yet. That starts at the 6th tiebreaker.....but it wouldn't get that far
Yes. But only if PSG does not draw. They draw and pretty much any loss other than 5-4 or 6-5 and we are out. But if PSG win we will need a win to be top.
Yeah sorry, I meant advantage for us. Key is not to sit too far back and absorb all the pressure. I doubt Ancelotti will allow that.
I don’t think that is the case that in a three way table, if two are tie breakers, that their head to head counts. I think in that table it is goal difference among the three. Are you sure about point 5?
No. If PSG draws then DEFINITELY a 2-1 or 3-2 ensures Liverpool win the group. The question is what rule decides which of PSG and Napoli go up. Head to head or goal difference in the games between Liverpool, PSG and Napoli.
If PSG draws they'll be on 9 points and we will too.. Don't we have the better head to head with them? With a 2-1 loss we'd have a better head to head than Liverpool and PSG because of away goals ... right?
Yep In a three way tie they apply the tiebreakers......once one team wins a tiebreak, the other two teams go back up to the top. We'd own the tiebreaker over PSG. A PSG draw doesn't hurt us
Three way tie would see us though past PSG due to 2 away goals. Liverpool would be first based on 6 points.
We are all on 9 points then the mini table between the thre looms like this Liverpool 6 Napoli 5 PSG 5 The question is what we are discussing. What decide which of Napoli or PSG would go up. Head to head or goal difference in that table. Even on PSG forums I just saw they have two French channels providing opposite views. Don’t think anyone thought this through.
Liverpool gets first based on 6 points Then all the tie breakers are reapplied between PSG and Napoli. Rule 5