NAB Cup [R]

Discussion in 'Rugby & Aussie Rules' started by Spartacus, Feb 10, 2008.

  1. Spartacus

    Spartacus Member

    May 20, 2001
    The NO SOCCER Zone
    I know it's early, but MERCY! Adelaide really made a statement in their NAB Cup opener, albeit against an undermanned Collingwood. It appeared that in every contest there were four Crows to every Magpie on the ball. Adelaide played with tremendous spark and precision. As the commentators said, they looked like they were in mid-May form, not mid-February. It looks as though the Crows figure to be reckoned with this year.
     
  2. RichardL

    RichardL BigSoccer Supporter

    May 2, 2001
    Berkshire
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I saw Adelaide were credited with 4 nine-point "super goals". What are they? And are they a rule change for the season, of just for the cup?
     
  3. Spartacus

    Spartacus Member

    May 20, 2001
    The NO SOCCER Zone
    There are a number of "experimental" rules in use for the NAB Cup, such as the "super goal" (goals from outside 50 metres) and the shorter quarter time. I'm sure those closer to the situation can detail more.
     
  4. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The biggest rules experimentation that has drawn the most controversy is a limit to the number of interchanges a single team can make, capped at 16 per quarter.

    Many coaches, including Geelong Mark Thompson and Rodney Eade of the Western Bulldogs, have decried the proposed experimentation, and have even flaunted themselves in the face of likely AFL office sanctions even to the point of daring to exceed the 16 interchanges per quarter in order to, in their own words, protect the welfare of their own players.

    But Collingwood's Mick Malthouse -- another outspoken critic of the proposal -- came perilously close to exceeding the limit in his team's weekend opener against Adelaide in Dubai. The Magpies made 62 out of a possible 64 interchanges, I had read somewhere earlier today.
     
  5. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Collingwood v Adelaide match report

    Also, in other news involving the rest of the teams, West Coast's Daniel Kerr will miss the entire preseason, while Essendon's Matthew Lloyd seems set to miss out this coming weekend.
     
  6. Spartacus

    Spartacus Member

    May 20, 2001
    The NO SOCCER Zone
    This is the first time I've really paid attention to the pre-season competition, but doesn't a cap on interchanges defeat the purpose of the pre-season (not to overtax your veteran players, get a close look at young players in first-team circumstances)?
     
  7. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Absolutely -- and I'm sure that's what Thompson, Malthouse, Eade and others are arguing in part of.
     
  8. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This weekend's remaining NAB Cup Round 1 fixtures:

    Friday, 15 February
    St. Kilda v Richmond, at Telstra Dome -- 7:30 p.m. Melbourne time

    Saturday, 16 February
    Western Bulldogs v North Melbourne, at TIO Stadium, Darwin -- 7:40 p.m. Melbourne time
    Geelong v Melbourne, at Kardinia Park, Geelong -- 3:40 p.m. Melbourne time
    Port Adelaide v Carlton, at AAMI Stadium, Adelaide -- 5:40 p.m. Adelaide time (6:20 p.m. in Melbourne)

    Sunday, 17 February
    Hawthorn v Sydney, at Aurora Stadium, Launceston -- 3:40 p.m. Melbourne time
    Fremantle v West Coast, at Subiaco Oval, Perth -- 6:40 p.m. Perth time (8:40 p.m. in Melbourne)

     
  9. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  10. westcoast929406

    westcoast929406 New Member

    Oct 10, 2003
    Perth Western Aust.
    There are new centre circle markings on the ground for the NAB series fans may have noticed.
    Two parallel lines on either side of the centre circle - These are no go Areas/Zones for the players when the umpire bounces or throws the ball up. The umpire always runs backwards in this area afterwards and players were blocking his exit in their rush to get to the bounce or throwup.
    I think a free kick is awarded if a players does that in the NAB Cup.
    Our grounds used to be line marking free in the past except for goal square, centre circle and boundary line but now new lines have been added every few years.

    IMHO The reduced interchange numbers is a trial to gauge if players are more tired thus lessening the high speed collision impact which was occuring with fresher burst players coming on to the ground more often. Whatever they (AFL) do the Coaches find loopholes.
     
  11. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    All the other results from Week 1:

    Western Bulldogs 1.6.9 (54)
    North Melbourne 1.4.10 (43)

    St. Kilda 1.15.12 (111)
    Richmond 2.7.11 (71)

    Essendon 2.11.16 (100)
    Brisbane 2.8.7 (73)

    Carlton 1.13.13 (100)
    Port Adelaide 0.12.13 (85)

    Geelong 2.22.10 (160)
    Melbourne 2.11.5 (89)

    Fremantle 2.12.14 (104)
    West Coast 1.7.9 (60)

    Hawthorn 3.2.12 (52)
    Sydney 0.7.8 (50)

    And the Week 2 schedule:

    NAB Cup -- Quarterfinals
    Friday, 22 February
    Western Bulldogs v Essendon -- at Telstra Dome, 7:40 p.m. Melbourne time

    Saturday, 23 February
    Geelong v St. Kilda -- at Manuka Oval, Canberra, 3:40 p.m. Melbourne time
    Carlton v Hawthorn -- at Telstra Dome, 7:10 p.m. Melbourne time

    Sunday, 24 February
    Adelaide v Fremantle -- at AAMI Stadium, 4:40 p.m. Adelaide time (5:10 p.m. in Melbourne)

    Cats call in big guns -- sportal.com.au
     
  12. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Round 2 begins, with the battle between two of Melbourne's western suburbs clubs -- Essendon and the Western Bulldogs:

    [result]Essendon 3.12.14 (113)
    Western Bulldogs 0.8.11 (59)

    Three of Scott Lucas' five goals came from outside the 50-meter arc, to pace the Bombers in a comprehensive win.[/result]
     
  13. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Adelaide will host St. Kilda in this year's NAB Cup Grand Final, tentatively set for next Saturday evening (Melbourne time), after the two teams recorded semifinal wins on the weekend.

    Apologies for not keeping this thread updated, but my work schedule has been kicking my butt.
     
  14. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sydney's Roos cleared of fixing match -- The Age

    Which has been the most exciting item of note this week, on the run-up to the Saints-Crows grand final tomorrow night at Telstra Dome.

    And that, in turn, begs the question... does anybody even actually care about the preseason competition anymore? And if not, what should be done about it?
     
  15. Spartacus

    Spartacus Member

    May 20, 2001
    The NO SOCCER Zone
    A pre-season comp doesn't seem to matter much. But there is good to be derived from pre-season games -- opportunity to (a) see trial players under game conditions, (b) trial new rules (that never seem to get integrated into the regular season comp, but I digress), and (c) outreach the code to new regions.

    A comp? Maybe not. In the short time I've been aware of the NAB Cup, it seems that once a club is eliminated, they're in "meaningless exhibition" mode anyway. Perhaps a 2 or 3 game pre-season schedule to allow the AFL and its clubs to achieve those 3 goals, but no "outcome" is necessary.
     
  16. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    NAB Cup grand final, quarter-time score, from AAMI Stadium:

    [result]Adelaide 0.1.4 (10)
    St. Kilda 0.0.4 (4)[/result]
     

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